Safe & Sound? Ha! More like Nuts & Wappy!

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They didn't have any Happy Hoof left at my tack shop and needed some lite chaff to give to Hattie as a "token feed" to mix her biotin in (she doesn't get a full feed in the summer as she is a very good doer and gets fat on the little grass we have) so got some Safe & Sound as the tack shop owner assured me that it was the same as Happy Hoof without any fattening or fizzy stuff in it.

Well, I have been feeding it for a few days now and Hattie has gone nuts on it!! I only feed her 1/4 of a Stubbs scoop of it twice a day. We hacked out today and she was a nightmare and ran off with me down the lane. LOL, I can only think what people must have thought of some middle aged woman head to toe in pink hi- viz, side saddle on a wappy TB cantering down the lane :p

I thought it felt a bit sticky like molasses when I took it out of the bag and then I read the ingredients today and it has sugar beet and molasses in it!!!! The two things which I DO NOT give Hattie as then she turns into a Super TB.

After our "hack" today, I took her up to my friend's school as if she has this much energy, then I'll get some dressage out of her. Well, our canter transitions were good and I didn't need my whip or spur to wake her up, lol.

Ack, I have full bag of this feed left so it looks like I'm going to have to heavily school Hattie before hacking out whilst she is on this feed. I may up her feed before our dressage next month so so I don't get the "lacking purpose" comment we always get for our free walk :D
 
I never take what the feed merchant/shop assistant says for granted and I check myself whats in food stuffs (with the help of some great HHO people!)
 
I am half way through our first sack, and I am very pleased with it.

I guess they all different my old boy was no good on calm and condition, he was not calm and lost condition !!!!!! :)
 
both of mine are on it and do fabulously on the stuff (yes the chubby Welshie AND the skinny minnie ISH lol) but ditto the Calm and Condition remarkd, the ISH wasnt so keen on it.

Horses for courses and all that jazz :)
 
It sent my cob nuts!!! Am currently looking for old fashioned chaff with no molasses or alfalfa in it - anyone got any ideas (I know I can get some from Simple Systems but too far - high delivery costs etc.
 
4x4 said:
It sent my cob nuts!!! Am currently looking for old fashioned chaff with no molasses or alfalfa in it - anyone got any ideas (I know I can get some from Simple Systems but too far - high delivery costs etc.
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Not sure if this will help, but I feed my TB Mollichaff Calmer- I'm pretty sure that doesn't have molasses in it. It doesn't send her scatty like normal chaff anyway.

I once tried her on some conditioning cubes, it was like trying to control Zeberdee on speed!:rolleyes:

It's funny in a way how some feeds are fine for some and not for others.
 
@4x4 I can't quote as I'm on my phone but I think mollichaff show shine is oil coated straw chaff. But you'll need to check to be certain. Either that or readigrass as it is just pure uncoated dry grass.
 
Alfa A Molasses Free - my nutty sport horse goes utterly doolally if he gets so much as a sniff of molasses and he does really well on this. I've also had Chestnut Feeds Alpha Easy recommended to me . . . will try it once we've moved yards and he's settled (it's the yard-provided hard feed), but if he doesn't like it/it upsets him he'll be straight back on the Alfa A.

As others have said, though, it really is down to what suits your horse . . . I know folks whose horses go insane if fed alfalfa or soya oil - neither of which bother my horse.

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Happy hoof has molasses in as well. When I found big chunks off it I stopped useing it and went over to allan and page L mix which is high fiber, very low sugar and starch ( 3.75%) and no cereal or molasses. I feed it to all mine now to add their vits/mins in and they love it
 
I find it impossible to believe that safe and sound caused a complete difference in your horse compared to happy hoof its practically the same analysis. Most feed companies would love to do mollases free feeds but in reality they don't go well on palatability trails, and speaking to my feed merchant they thought the dengie molasses free products would fly off the shelf, but sales were really disappointing. It was quite a trend a few years ago and by the time the trials had been done on the feeds maybe it was out of fashion! Most low sugar chaffs have a very light coating of watery syrup, its negliable to cause any behavioual changes.
 
MY cob is on safe and sound and is excellent on it. This horse cant even sniff sugarbeet or cereals without going nuts never had problems with it at all. Baileys low cal he nearly killed me on that.
 
Yikes! Do have a funny image of you going down the lane though :cool::eek::D

I use Saracen's: Equijewel for putting on weight; Releave for the stressy ones; Shape-Up for the fatties :D

Grey Mare was on Speedibeat, along with the others, but although there is notng in it to fizz up, she went whappy! 180 degree leaping spins, cantering the full length of the school sideways (impressive!), and literally handstand bucks. Could only be ridden maybe once a week as she would rub her mouth so badly. We cut out the Speedibeat and within a week or two, she was back to her normal level of whappiness, which was far more manageable. The feed had been the only change.

Hope you find something that suits, though I would say, if the feed is upsetting her system that much, give it away :)
 
My mare wouldn't eat Safe and Sound and just stood there staring at me in a disappointed! I've got a new unopened bag if anyone in mid-kent wants it.

She adores happy hoof though :)
 
I have started to use top spec top chop lite this has no mollasses in and is cheaper that hifi mollases free. Smells and feels lovely too. Can feed as much or little as u like
 
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