Salanders - I'm at the end of my tether!!!

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Hi Guys,

My boy has started with a patch of salanders at the front of his hock. Although he is not lame he is sore to touch. I have been bathing in hibiscrub and have applied various things - radiol, PO&S, Udder cream but it doesn't appear to be improving - although not getting worse.

Any ideas on where I cn go now - what's the best treatment? how long does it take to clear up?

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Hello !!

My last horse suffered with this for years - the vet diagnosed it as all sorts of things, and it never cleared up. In fact the week I sold him :( it flared up so bad I had to grovel to the new buyer and knock some money off. And believe me I tried everything - vet creams, injections, lice powder, camrosa, essential oils, e 45......

So when I got Shy, and found a few patches of malenders....I freaked !! But I discovered pig oil and sulphur from a post on here, and we have never looked back. Cleared it up within a week, and as I use it continuously to prevent mud fever and get the feathers growing, we've not had any problems. I swear by the stuff.

From sussex cobs (the best I've used) on ebay. :)
 
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I've googled "salanders and malanders" and several threads from different forums have come up. Unfortunately its seems to be a recuring thing. Some people have had sucess with Equine America Fungatrol. I have used this in the past for various skin conditions on various horses,including excess grease on the front hind cannons and rainscald [resuce mare]. it worked very well. Hope this helps.
 
Horsesforever1 said:
I've googled "salanders and malanders" and several threads from different forums have come up. Unfortunately its seems to be a recuring thing. Some people have had sucess with Equine America Fungatrol. I have used this in the past for various skin conditions on various horses,including excess grease on the front hind cannons and rainscald [resuce mare]. it worked very well. Hope this helps.
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having done the same I was just looking that stuff up ;)
 
. It's not an infection, fungal or bacterial, it's simply an area of weak skin which is usually where there is white (longish) hair, on the knees and hock area. cobs seem susceptible to it, and treating it aggressively will only weaken the skin further. The pig oil just moisturises it and seems to be compatible with the skin.

ps, definitely stop bathing, and just apply the pig oil, and see if that does the trick :D
 
shysmum said:
. It's not an infection, fungal or bacterial, it's simply an area of weak skin which is usually where there is white (longish) hair, on the knees and hock area. cobs seem susceptible to it, and treating it aggressively will only weaken the skin further. The pig oil just moisturises it and seems to be compatible with the skin.

ps, definitely stop bathing, and just apply the pig oil, and see if that does the trick :D
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Thank you - will try this
 
Hi, re frustrating problem,my wonderful cob started with sores, dry elephant skin behind knee and down leg ,tried everything kept clean morning and night no improvement -vet in
injected with Desosect (I think that was the name) and then another in two weeks -result problem gone! almost instantly !
He did say mites can be mistaken for all sorts of skin irritations and although product not licensed at time had been used hundreds of times to irradicate the problem .My boy was a different horse after.Hairy heels are loved by these mites ,the injection was very reasonable in price too.
Hope this helps ,I felt useless when it kept flaring up and guilty ,best of luck.
 
My friend tried Pig oil. BIG mistake. On a sunny day like today it just burnt him!! Poor poor boy. (imagine putting oil on delicate skin and going in the sun! big no)

She has been putting MSN cream on it. It doesn't cure it, but it makes them softer and they are not sore and don't crack.

Someone on here recommended Cider Vinegar Oil (add to feed). Apparently she put hers on it and it cleared up completely. So my friend literally started him on it last night. Fingers Crossed.
 
Have just been giving this some thought. its rather like mud fever for which different things work for different horses at different times, i expect that even if salanders isnt fungal, the damaged skin is open to other infection and fungas can get in,so the fungatrol can help greatly and then the horse is given a fighting chance to cure itself of the condition bacause it isnt fighting a battle on two fronts,so to speak. Also,have you tried honey? its anti bacterial and soothing.
 
greyshighland said:
Hi, re frustrating problem,my wonderful cob started with sores, dry elephant skin behind knee and down leg ,tried everything kept clean morning and night no improvement -vet in
injected with Desosect (I think that was the name) and then another in two weeks -result problem gone! almost instantly !
He did say mites can be mistaken for all sorts of skin irritations and although product not licensed at time had been used hundreds of times to irradicate the problem .My boy was a different horse after.Hairy heels are loved by these mites ,the injection was very reasonable in price too.
Hope this helps ,I felt useless when it kept flaring up and guilty ,best of luck.
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Echo this, 100%. I've spent the last 12 months trying to sort out my cob's sallanders. I've used pig oil, sudocreme, hoof to heel cream, hibiscrub, athletes foot cream to name just a few. Had the vet out a week ago who gave her a Dectomax injection and voila, result. The scabbiness is clearing up already and she is much happier letting me touch her legs. Dont bother messing around with creams, just get the vet out and be done with it. I'd have saved myself a fortune and a lot of messing around.
 
CazD said:
Echo this, 100%. I've spent the last 12 months trying to sort out my cob's sallanders. I've used pig oil, sudocreme, hoof to heel cream, hibiscrub, athletes foot cream to name just a few. Had the vet out a week ago who gave her a Dectomax injection and voila, result. The scabbiness is clearing up already and she is much happier letting me touch her legs. Dont bother messing around with creams, just get the vet out and be done with it. I'd have saved myself a fortune and a lot of messing around.
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not always caused by mites. Friends cob had the course of injections and made no difference. But you're right, you should try it first.
 
New horse has patches behind her knees (bay with black feather, only white skin on her nose). I was told that the vet had been treating it with injection and had looked at it just before we collected her and said she didn't need another jab. I am putting aloe vera gel on nightly. It is softening the thickened skin, which when dry comes off in flakes like huge dandruff. there is improvement but I certainly can't say that I've cured it. The elderly cob has suffered on and off for years and we have used just about anything you can think of (except aloe vera gel), including aloe vera in the diet, which worked for a while. Last year she caught lice from next door's pony, we treated this with Cooper's Fly Repellant Plus. Amazingly she no longer has itchy feathers.
 
misterjay said:
Mister Jay has always had this behind his knees; every few days I bathe it in Hibiscrub and pick the scabs off. Then apply either E45 or Carr Day Martin Protection Plus.

This routine seems to work quite well.
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Hi Mister Jay, that is where my boy started with mites -vet described the scabs and affected area as mange! If he has been like that for more than 2 weeks I would urge
you to ask vet ,it will not go away if mites ,sorry ,and can make the horse/pony miserable
,hope you do not mind me replying .
 
franks behind knee issues have nicely disappeared since clipping his legs :eek: heinous I know! I did used to use some sudocreme mixed with some sulphur powder to stave off any infection. I found it moisturised better than using the pig oil if there was an established problem
 
Thanks guys, my boy has had dectomax in the past but has no current symptoms of mites thanks to pig oil and frontline. I've not bathed today ~ which took all my strength and slapped on alone vera healing gel.
ill kyep you posted or~ am interested in the honey idea but won't it attract flies?
 
It s like human psoriasis and responds well to such treatment. It's almost seen in every heavy horse to lesser or more degrees. Try t gel this works quite well., but dovonex works amazingly well. Not sure if your vet can prescribe this tho.
 
Try washing the area and surrounding with some Nizerol Shampoo - It's a human shampoo and clears up a multitude of problems. Dilute with Hand Hot water and lather up well. Leave on.
 
My friends cob suffers from this. We stop washing, as it just makes it worse. We use good old wound powder to dry it up until flaky and sores are gone, then use hand cream on the area the keep it moisturised. Seems to work for him. She uses pig oil and sulphur to keep mites at bay as he used to suffer horrendously, but not on the backs of his knees as it made it worse.
 
Melly has Mallanders, but fortunately never salanders (fingers crossed now!) I have found that anything I put on it makes it worse and makes her sore...I now spray daily will coat shine, and go through her feather with a narrow tooth comb, it doesnt take it all away, but its much much better than it was!
 
I've just had my cob treated for this - after trying all sorts of creams, pig oil, manuka honey, sudocreme etc I eventually asked the vet for help. She prescribed a steriod cream used for eczema on humans and it has cleared up perfectly.
 
Our boy suffered terribly last year, we had the vet out and 4 lots of Dectomax, hibiscrubbing and picking off the scabs/crusts, then Flucoderm (steriodal creme) NOTHING helped until the winter came and it healed up. Now he;s itchy again and in no time the 10p size sore on the back of his knee has opened up, we've had feathers off, insecticidal shampoo, sudocrem to keep it soft, and I worry we are going down the same path. He's very stroppy about it being touched so its obviously very sore. I have some sachets of bute type pain killer and wonder about giving him one of those before tackling it, as it seems it can't heal when the crusts are to thick - any thoughts anyone????
 
My mare has been off work with this since February, in a sorry way. Samples were sent to the lab which suggested it was bacteriological but the appropriate drugs didn't work, and she was put back onto fungal drugs. It is just now clearing up. The thing that helped the most was the vet's recommendation of shampooing her legs (all four were aftected) with coal tar shampoo every day. Pig oil didn't work at all.

I had taken her off linseed, as she was so plump and didn't, I thought, need it. She's back on that now and it has certainly improved the regrowth of hair.

It's a horrible disease, and she's been SO lame. I'd love to hear how you get on, as I felt very down when she was at her worst, and in a selfish sort of way its good to hear I'm not alone.
 
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