ester
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fwiw I do think others are thinking about the already encumbent dog wary daxie as much as what a saluki is like.
Saluki puppy or no puppy update
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Alec Swan
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ester, despite your argued lack of knowledge of the breed in question, your point and your question are very well made. In short, you're right.
Most puppies, and it's not breed reliant, will have their basic make up in place by the age of 16 weeks, and at 14 months, the die is set and except in the hands of experienced handlers, changing the perceptions of most dogs, is beyond the average pet owner who's simply seeking a toy (sorry, companion).
Alec.
Alec Swan
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Again, correct, and that's the nub of the O_P's question; NOT should I get a Saluki, but should I get one as a companion for a tiny dog and one who seems to have problems. The answer is obvious, to most.
Alec.
_GG_
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It's irrelevant how many Saluki's other people have had or how those dogs have behaved. The fact is that Saluki's are sighthounds, they do require different management to a mini Dachshund. Add in that unless the OP adopts different exercise plans for each dog, one of the dogs is going to be left in trouble. The mini is not going to be keeping up with the kind of exercise the Saluki needs, so it will be the Saluki that is missing out and will need to find other ways to expend its energy. I've known some amazingly chilled out Salukis. I went to help an owner with one that had zero recall and by the end of two hours, the dog would recall even mid chase...we had the best test ever when she saw a pheasant. They can be trained, they can be wonderful dogs, but this thread isn't really about Saluki's, it's about what is best for the OP's current dog and I think it would be foolish to get an immature Saluki with all of the potentials for stress for the mini when there are so many other options available.
OP - Could it work? Yes.
Is it worth the risk of finding out at the cost of possibly a lot of stress for your mini? Your call.
I have a JRT and a Lab x Rottie (6.5 stone) and we got them as puppies at 9 weeks old. They were born only a day apart so could hardly be closer in age and they grew up together. The JRT was a typical JRT puppy, taking on anything he could and that included the Rottie x. Always play, never anything more, but they played really rough. The Rottie x would lay in wait and stalk the JRT and pounce on him, chase him, bowl him over, he'd jump up and get his own back, running rings around her. They are perfect with eachother.
BUT...I would never ever let the Rottie x play freely with any other small dog. She is used to the way she can play with the JRT and she would no doubt scare the bejeesus out of any other dog not accustomed to it. I wouldn't do that to the small dog. It's not that the Rottie x is doing anything wrong, luckily they are all well behaved enough that I can call them away from anything, but if I let her just play without supervision, I think she'd potentially ruin the confidence of another small dog. She is trained, as is the JRT and they listen to me and do as I ask, when I ask, but a 14 months Saluki that has been raised by someone else is a largely unknown quantity and a dog I think would be best going to a home with someone who can give her what she needs and not inflict her potential for chasing on an already compromised small dog.
It's not worth it in my opinion.
_GG_
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I should add...I don't actually think I'm lucky my dogs are all well behaved. They are that way because we made them that way.
I love Saluki's.
I love dogs being responsibly placed into homes that suit them and take into account the needs of the current dog(s).
I love Saluki's.
I love dogs being responsibly placed into homes that suit them and take into account the needs of the current dog(s).
freesteamer
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Just to say - age has nothing to do with it in my experience. I started off rescuing ex-racers so was getting them and introducing them to my dogs and other dogs at all different ages from 13 months to 7 years and each had their own character and energy level. Many had issues too because of their past experiences, but nothing that couldn't be sorted!
Irishdan
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Freesteamers pics
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_GG_
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Freesteamers pics
They are beautiful pictures. I don't think anyone here is saying that Saluki's and Dachshunds can't live together perfectly well. Just that it's not that cut and paste when it's a Saluki you don't know and a mini Dachshund that has issues.
Irishdan
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Absolutely agree with you GG, especially your first statement in that its what you make of them - a lot like horses really!
Just get wound up with all these negative statements regarding Salukis come flooding in and Im sat looking at ours wondering if people are talking about a totally different breed
Irishdan
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Another cracking pic
MurphysMinder
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I think this post may have been mentioned on a sighthound thread . I do understand why the saluki owners are upset, I feel the same if GSDs get any sort of bad pres.However in this case I think the whole crux of the matter is that the OP has a small dog who is wary of others, so maybe a boisterous young dog of any breed is not ideal. The first question I would be asking is why a 14 month old is being rehomed?
. I do understand why the saluki owners are upset, I feel the same if GSDs get any sort of bad pres.However in this case I think the whole crux of the matter is that the OP has a small dog who is wary of others, so maybe a boisterous young dog of any breed is not ideal. The first question I would be asking is why a 14 month old is being rehomed?
_GG_
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Absolutely agree with you GG, especially your first statement in that its what you make of them - a lot like horses really!
Just get wound up with all these negative statements regarding Salukis come flooding in and Im sat looking at ours wondering if people are talking about a totally different breed
No, you're not...but there are many people on the forum that understand that we don't really know the experience/abilities of the OP and so err on the side of caution when things like this come up. I know I would hate to just say, "mine are fine, go for it" only for it all to go wrong because the dogs/horses in question are of course, nothing like mine and the OP end up in strife.
Your dogs are a credit to you. But I'm sure even with your lovely Saluki's, you must be able to comprehend that one possibly not so well trained, being mixed with a unsure mini could be a recipe for disaster.
_GG_
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Very good point.
Irishdan
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Well, we have only just placed a 13 month old Saluki dog in a new home yesterday. We bred a litter last year, found fab homes for all of them. The only dog pup went to a family who already owned a Saluki lurcher. Sadly due to family reasons and absolutely no fault of the dog they were forced to give him up. He came back to us, when he was 9 months, as has been agreed with all our pups owners should things not work out. He has continued his education with us and turned out to be a super lad. Broken to all stock, great re call and hacking out daily with my other half. So just saying there can be genuine reasons
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PolarSkye
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This is the nub of the matter. Yes, Salukis are lovely dogs. Yes, they can live happily alongside other (small) dogs if managed/introduced appropriately. But the issue here is that the incumbent dog (a mini Dachshund) already has issues with other dogs . . . and people (including me) are questioning whether or not this Saluki (lovely or otherwise) is the right companion for her mini Dachsie. And finally there's the issue of why this Saluki girl is being given away, for free, at 14 months old.
For me, however, the question isn't Saluki/not Saluki . . . it's companion/no companion.
And, yes, I have experience . . . with dogs with issues AND with lurchers/sighthounds and Salukis. I LOVE lurchers, but not all other dogs do.
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MurphysMinder
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I agree there are plenty of genuine reasons why a dog is being rehomed , but unlike the case you mention it seems this dog has not been returned to the breeder but is being rehomed by the new owner (apologies if I have got this wrong). I didn't say being rehomed at that age would stop me considering a dog, just that I would be asking why.
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Perhaps you didn't notice my user name - Levrier means greyhound or sighthound - I have many years experience of greyhounds, lurchers, whippets and other sighthounds so my comment was not an off the cuff "frankly ridiculous" remark, it was a comment based on experience. I currently have 4 greyhounds and, in their case, none of them would live happily with cats, other toy breeds or (in the case of my big greyhound dog) whippets - it is down to the individual dog, hence my comment about the salukis I knew (and observed) treating whippets like rabbits on a walk.
It was merely put into the conversation for the OP to consider; at no point did I say ALL salukis were like that any more than I would say ALL greyhounds are not cat safe! I know all of my greyhounds would look to attack a dachshund in some circumstances, and if the OP's dachshund is already nervous of other dogs this is not a scenario I would be looking to put my dog in if I were the OP.
Perhaps you might like to get off your high horse and consider what has actually been said, rather than jumping to your own conclusions? Welcome to HHO by the way.....
{97702}
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Exactly the point.... oh no, are GG, Polar Skye and I now going to be accused of being in a clique? :O
PolarSkye
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First of all - your dogs are beautiful and a credit to you
.Second - well done rehabbing the dogs who pass through your hands so successfully - you obviously really understand sighthounds . . . sadly not true of everyone who owns these lovely dogs.
Third - just an observation (not directed at you freesteamer) but since when was it required to give a list of qualifications to post on this forum?
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_GG_
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Well, we have only just placed a 13 month old Saluki dog in a new home yesterday. We bred a litter last year, found fab homes for all of them. The only dog pup went to a family who already owned a Saluki lurcher. Sadly due to family reasons and absolutely no fault of the dog they were forced to give him up. He came back to us, when he was 9 months, as has been agreed with all our pups owners should things not work out. He has continued his education with us and turned out to be a super lad. Broken to all stock, great re call and hacking out daily with my other half. So just saying there can be genuine reasons
Regardless of your own story though, when the OP doesn't know the owner or dog....surely, as a responsible dog owner, you would advise questioning why it was being rehomed?
Of course not all rehoming stories are born out of bad dogs. Quite the opposite I believe. But still....it's a valid question to ask.
Now stop posting lovely photo's. I am getting itchy feet to go on holiday now
Fides
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I don't think anyone was saying that a saluki is going to kill the daxi - more that the type of play that long dogs 'do' is likely to intimidate an already nervous dog.
My saluki x was dumped and ended up at Lurcher Link rescue. During his time being fostered he had 7 potential homes who all rejected him due to him being too boisterous. He isn't... He is quick, but to an owner who hasn't had a long dog before they can appear that way.
Mine was a nightmare when I first got him for chasing other dogs in play. Most owners thought it was brilliant as it meant their walk could but cut short as they had had their dog tired out for them. I had to be careful who I let him 'play' with though as some dogs are very intimidated by this behaviour.
This is where I based my view on that perhaps a saluki wouldn't be the best match for a dog aggressive daxi. The poor saluki is already being rehomed - what happens if it doesn't work out? The poor thing needs a home for life.
OP - can I ask why you haven't been able to solve the fear/aggression problem? I used to foster difficult/'working' and outdoor dogs and have only had one dog where the aggression was that bad that it couldn't be managed to the point the dog was happy. Keep trying with behaviourists - someone will be able to help him x
My saluki x was dumped and ended up at Lurcher Link rescue. During his time being fostered he had 7 potential homes who all rejected him due to him being too boisterous. He isn't... He is quick, but to an owner who hasn't had a long dog before they can appear that way.
Mine was a nightmare when I first got him for chasing other dogs in play. Most owners thought it was brilliant as it meant their walk could but cut short as they had had their dog tired out for them. I had to be careful who I let him 'play' with though as some dogs are very intimidated by this behaviour.
This is where I based my view on that perhaps a saluki wouldn't be the best match for a dog aggressive daxi. The poor saluki is already being rehomed - what happens if it doesn't work out? The poor thing needs a home for life.
OP - can I ask why you haven't been able to solve the fear/aggression problem? I used to foster difficult/'working' and outdoor dogs and have only had one dog where the aggression was that bad that it couldn't be managed to the point the dog was happy. Keep trying with behaviourists - someone will be able to help him x
ester
Not slacking multitasking
Irishdan stop posting such lovely pics!
(I love the one of the little one on a cushion on the sofa!)
(I love the one of the little one on a cushion on the sofa!)
_GG_
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ester
Not slacking multitasking
I want to be up that mountain.
Fides
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Have to join in
Freddie (white) saluki x grey and Boyd saluki x foxhound
A brief moment of stillness
Caught!
Cat friendly
Dreadful with small dogs!
And this is why a long dog isn't a good mix for a small dog - could the small dog have kept up?
Above is also the reason why small dogs are rubbish
Freddie (white) saluki x grey and Boyd saluki x foxhound
A brief moment of stillness
Caught!
Cat friendly
Dreadful with small dogs!
And this is why a long dog isn't a good mix for a small dog - could the small dog have kept up?
Above is also the reason why small dogs are rubbish
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freesteamer
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I started off with Greyhounds and one in particular was a complete liability that wanted to kill everything BUT we sorted that, or most of that and he ended up fine in a house that had cats, fine with my pet rabbits and great with dogs. We just had to watch him with Deer and Sheep. I knew of Greys that would get that look in their eye when they saw a small dog running and to be honest I hated the folk that had these dogs because I know that their dogs could have been trained not to, but they were in the mind set that this is what Greyhounds could be like and so be it and of course they never ever got to run off the lead which in my opinion makes these dogs worse. Every one of the 30+ Greyhounds I have owned, rehomed and trained etc were able to be let off lead (mine were rarely ever on lead) to run free and interact with all sorts of dogs. If you put the work in these dogs can be brilliant and very sociable.
I have a Saluki cross who has been attacked quite a few times and has issues with strange dogs while out on walks, yet she will accept dogs that I bring into my home to look after. Most of my rescues had issues, but introducing another dog to the house carefully resulted in them being more confident, so it's not always the case that a new dog coming in will make the existing anxious dog worse.
I have a Saluki cross who has been attacked quite a few times and has issues with strange dogs while out on walks, yet she will accept dogs that I bring into my home to look after. Most of my rescues had issues, but introducing another dog to the house carefully resulted in them being more confident, so it's not always the case that a new dog coming in will make the existing anxious dog worse.
freesteamer
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Glad you like my photos - Just to point out, the Dachshund in the photo, now 3 years old lives with 4 Maltese Terriers and they all are scared of big dogs and are not good around strange dogs, yet they can come into my home with 5 large hounds and sometimes other dogs that are here too and are fine. The Silver Grizzle Saluki in the photo was a pup and full of energy but in the house he was relaxed and he has been taught by me to respect little dogs and other pets. He's just 20 months old now.
I don't think it matters what breed or age, just that any new addition has to be introduced carefully and not be done with force.
Nudibranch
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Oh dear oh dear.
Ok a few points to address for the naysayers. My "initial reasons" for getting a dachshund were because, nearly 7 years ago, I was living in a city. Strangely perhaps, times change and I am now back in the countryside, yes permanently! We have no neighbours, and acre after acre of fields with no main roads. There are, for reasons unknown, no rabbits around here although there is the odd hare. This saluki is just over 22", yes I did check if she was a bigger animal, and is owned by a farmer and is experienced with sheep. She lives in a family home with 3 gundogs and an italian greyhound who measures 13 inches. She does not treat the italian as prey, nor does she chase cats. She is very calm and sociable with other dogs, perhaps not surprisingly. And she recalls well. Hence her meeting the criteria. Between the two of us there will be someone at home almost continually, and fwiw my dachshund will exercise all day long. I wouldn't expect him to keep up with a sighthound on the beach but I really don't see why that is a problem!
As regards my own dog, he is worse with smaller dogs. I may or may not have mentioned on my other thread that his one and only dog friend was a rhodesian ridgeback who could have eaten him in a single bite.
My final point about the breed - I may need to put time into training her? Surely not? I mean, can't I just bring her home, chuck her in the kitchen with my dog and then let the two of them loose in the field later on. Come on people.... HHO is a great resource but sometimes people can really be rather patronising and almost possessive at times. You mustn't get a sighthound, gosh they chase things and aren't always good off the lead and, well, I am the only person who understands their true needs.
And my final fwiw, I grew up with border collies....
Ok a few points to address for the naysayers. My "initial reasons" for getting a dachshund were because, nearly 7 years ago, I was living in a city. Strangely perhaps, times change and I am now back in the countryside, yes permanently! We have no neighbours, and acre after acre of fields with no main roads. There are, for reasons unknown, no rabbits around here although there is the odd hare. This saluki is just over 22", yes I did check if she was a bigger animal, and is owned by a farmer and is experienced with sheep. She lives in a family home with 3 gundogs and an italian greyhound who measures 13 inches. She does not treat the italian as prey, nor does she chase cats. She is very calm and sociable with other dogs, perhaps not surprisingly. And she recalls well. Hence her meeting the criteria. Between the two of us there will be someone at home almost continually, and fwiw my dachshund will exercise all day long. I wouldn't expect him to keep up with a sighthound on the beach but I really don't see why that is a problem!
As regards my own dog, he is worse with smaller dogs. I may or may not have mentioned on my other thread that his one and only dog friend was a rhodesian ridgeback who could have eaten him in a single bite.
My final point about the breed - I may need to put time into training her? Surely not? I mean, can't I just bring her home, chuck her in the kitchen with my dog and then let the two of them loose in the field later on. Come on people.... HHO is a great resource but sometimes people can really be rather patronising and almost possessive at times. You mustn't get a sighthound, gosh they chase things and aren't always good off the lead and, well, I am the only person who understands their true needs.
And my final fwiw, I grew up with border collies....
Clodagh
Playing chess with pigeons
Freesteamers pics
And OBVIOUSLY what you omitted to mention is your sighthound killed your daxie just after you clicked the shutter here! I have a saluki lurcher and she plays 'Waterloo Cup' with the terriers, I love them.
_GG_
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There's a slightly unpleasant tone to that and I do understand why, but people can only post of the information presented and all posts have been made with your current dogs happiness/safety in mind, so that's never a bad thing. The last part of your post above is just not necessary. You ask a question, people are going to give opinions and as I said, based on the information you have given. People err on the side of caution for the sake of the dogs when details about a persons experience etc. are not at hand. That is a good thing, not a bad one.
It does sound like a potentially good match...something that was not made as clear in your first post. Good luck with it.