Sand School in the Garden

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Hi there - does anyone know if you need PP for a sand school in the garden? We live in a listed building and someone told me PP wasn't necessary if it's in the garden?
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I think that's highly questionable and you'd need to get confirmation from the planners, listed building peeps etc. On a non-listed property I found that I needed to heavily mulch a section of the garden though to prevent invasive weeds. This involved laying down a membrane and mulching to a depth of 10 inches with woodchip . . .
 
I think you will need planning permission regardless of where it goes - you still require planning permission if you are constructing things in your garden! I would think that getting planning permission for something within close proximity of your property will be even more difficult as the garden will probably fall into the curtilage of the house and therefore form part of the listing. I would speak to your LA planning dept and as you will need listed building consent along with planning.
 
Yes you do. Our property is a bit complicated as part of it is green belt (the part with the space!). We spoke to our local planning officer who said that we did need planning as we were 'altering the appearance & function' of the land. Basically our small paddock flooded (and was under water when he came to visit) but we still needed planning before we did anything other than install drains and resow, we decided it was easiest to apply for the planning and then we were all 'legal'.
Just be warned our local council have now started charging £180 for pre application enquiries!
 
Yes you would, there are certain things you can build within the curtilage of your garden within Permitted Development Rights. Building a riding arena would IMO change the curtilage of your garden as the arena would be for specific equestrian use, so that part would no longer be classed as garden if that makes sense.
Also I should imagine a riding arena is looked at the same as a swimming pool which again can't be built under PDR.
Also as an aside from that a lot of listed buildings have had their permitted development rights removed anyway.
This I'd just my interpretation of the planning rules I have come across.
 
I also think you would, as I think it would count as changing the use of the garden?

Checking with the local authority planners won't cost you anything, and in the long run could save you a lot of hassle, time and money.:)
 
Yes you would. You are changing the use of your garden from a garden to equestrian use and some LAs won't approve this.

Also need to consider any services (sewerage, drains, electrics etc) running under the land...
 
Without specific reference to riding areas I wonder what would be classed as ok?

Back in the 90's there was a huge surge of people covering their gardens in weed supressing membrane and then gravel or woodchip in a bid to make them low maintenance and I dare say that would have been allowed without PP

Should you have such an area in your garden it would be pure co-incidence that the resultant area could be useful for other things such as being a recreational area for children or pets.......
 
I heard that someone once created a 'sand paddock' for her laminitics - and just happened to ride in it too!

If I was you I would go through planning and get it all sorted properly though.
 
For a listed building you will always need listed building consent and PP as listed building status means there are NO permitted development rights.

The fact that it is listed will make it pretty likely they will not agree to it in the garden as it would affect he setting of the listed building.

However they may agree to it further away from the house on any land attached to the house.

Also bear in mind that if it is very close to the house then any future buyer of the house may see it as a detractor of the houses appearance and it would cost quite a bit to erase. It is an asset but only in the right place.
 
While this may not apply to a listed building, you can build a manege in your garden without planning permission as long as it is for your own use and not commercial. There are some restrictions like it must be a minimum of 15m from the house and a certain distance from any adjacent highway. You can also build stables within the curtilage of your house without permission as long as it falls within the garden area and not an adjacent paddock. Again there are some height restrictions bit it can be done.
 
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