Saracen ulcers forage feeding video
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PurBee
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Very interesting. It aligns with a study done that gastric acid release being more during daytime than at night - so its interesting that he say this study showed night-time starvation didnt cause ulcers but daytime starvation does.
I’ve fed according to these principles and have good healthy guts and poops. Theyre not starved for 12 hours nightime, but do have around 4-6hrs when theyve likely finished all available forage when in the drylot yard at night.
If i had a horse with gut issues, specifically ulcers, i’d adjust to adlib 24/7 to get their guts re-set and healed well enough to manage some hours at night without forage to simply just rest. (While investigating what other likely issue caused the ulcers in the first place)
We’ve all heard so much media that a horse without forage 24/7 is at risk of ulcers, but i think thats finally scientifically being proved to be wrong.
But i reiterate, a horse with health/gut issues will likely need different management than simply daytime feed, nightime starve period routine.
I’ve fed according to these principles and have good healthy guts and poops. Theyre not starved for 12 hours nightime, but do have around 4-6hrs when theyve likely finished all available forage when in the drylot yard at night.
If i had a horse with gut issues, specifically ulcers, i’d adjust to adlib 24/7 to get their guts re-set and healed well enough to manage some hours at night without forage to simply just rest. (While investigating what other likely issue caused the ulcers in the first place)
We’ve all heard so much media that a horse without forage 24/7 is at risk of ulcers, but i think thats finally scientifically being proved to be wrong.
But i reiterate, a horse with health/gut issues will likely need different management than simply daytime feed, nightime starve period routine.
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One of my vets said years ago horses coming into stables at daytime in summer often got ulcers as would snooze and not eat so explains why. I still bring them in but feed them a high chaff meal as soon as they come in.
SEL
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When I had to starve a mare overnight for an ulcer scope the vet said something along these lines. He liked to scope first thing because overnight their stomach acid reduced.
paddy555
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do you have a link to that please?
ihatework
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Good old Dickie, I’m lucky to have him as one of my main vets
paddy555
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If you are at B & W you must also have Anna Mitchell. She was at my vet hospital prior to that and saved my foal.
PurBee
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I’ll have a trawl for it when i get the chance - it was mentioned/linked on a thread specifically about stomach acid release about 2yrs ago.do you have a link to that please?
SEL
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It's making me think about how and when i muzzle actually. The Appy can 100% eat through it but she does get grouchy so I wonder if just not enough in day time to keep the acid under control.
Marigold4
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Interesting! Two of my horses always have hay left in the morning but one is a "scoffer" and eats quickly. He is also the one that needs weight control so I can't really give him hay adlib as he would be twice the size.this has just come up on my FB and no doubt of some others.
I didn't know this ie feed forage in the daytime not night. Speaker is a vet at B & W.
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