Sarc-ex - Any good?

[SpotsandBays]

Ok people, talk to me! Some of you may have seen my posts about my horse who had a wart in his mouth, it was removed and sent off and results are that it’s a sarcoid.
Now, I know I need to be aware as it is likely that he will develop more. So I was doing some research and stumbled upon sarc-ex. Has anybody used this? As he doesn’t have any currently, I’m thinking of a preventative measure. But am reluctant to just try it as I guess I won’t know if it’s working or not until another one forms (which I’ll then know that it isn’t working!)
Any good or just a gimmick? Thanks in advance!

 

[SpotsandBays]

Should add, I’m talking about the feed supplement!

 

[live2ride]

Not worked for mine, he's grown 2 more sarcoids in last year that he's been on it. Just finishing current tub then will be stopping using. However, know it works for some, I put mine on it on the off chance it did work for him, unfortunately didnt

 

[doodle]

It’s brilliant! Soli developed a sarcoid on his nostril just after I got him. Vet wanted to go straight to Liverpool cream. I didn’t want to on a new young ex racer thinking he might get head shy. Have him 3 tubs of sarc-ex. It was gone within 2 tubs but I wanted to be sure. No reoccurrence anywhere.

Then Robin had 3 TINY ones on bum. Again gave him 3 tubs Sara-ex and within 2 tubs they were gone. However those really were tiny, had to really go hunting for them so possibly not sarcoids.

 

[loz9]

I've had success with it.
One horse I fed it for about 9mths & it fell off & they haven't reoccurred (approx 9yrs), but I also haven't fed her sarc-ex since. The other I was starting to think it wasn't going to work (different type of sarcoid). He'd been on it for about 18months with no change, if anything it & another grew, but he'd had a really tough few months & his immune system was very low. A few days after we'd started to think about laser treatment, he managed to slice it off with his rug surcingle (obviously leaving the root behind). It then seemed to start working & the remainder of the lump was 'pushed' out. He's been off sarc-ex for over a year & it hasn't reoccurred.
The only addition I made with both horses was feeding sarc-ex, so I do believe it works & would feed again if needed.

 

[Bernster]

Have thought about it for new horse but just ordered some thuja cream and pills to try first.

 

[SpotsandBays]

It’s brilliant! Soli developed a sarcoid on his nostril just after I got him. Vet wanted to go straight to Liverpool cream. I didn’t want to on a new young ex racer thinking he might get head shy. Have him 3 tubs of sarc-ex. It was gone within 2 tubs but I wanted to be sure. No reoccurrence anywhere.

Then Robin had 3 TINY ones on bum. Again gave him 3 tubs Sara-ex and within 2 tubs they were gone. However those really were tiny, had to really go hunting for them so possibly not sarcoids.

Interesting!! Yes I’d have also avoided Liverpool cream, I’ve heard it’s pretty nasty to deal with! So you only fed it when there were some present?

 

[SpotsandBays]

I've had success with it.
One horse I fed it for about 9mths & it fell off & they haven't reoccurred (approx 9yrs), but I also haven't fed her sarc-ex since. The other I was starting to think it wasn't going to work (different type of sarcoid). He'd been on it for about 18months with no change, if anything it & another grew, but he'd had a really tough few months & his immune system was very low. A few days after we'd started to think about laser treatment, he managed to slice it off with his rug surcingle (obviously leaving the root behind). It then seemed to start working & the remainder of the lump was 'pushed' out. He's been off sarc-ex for over a year & it hasn't reoccurred.
The only addition I made with both horses was feeding sarc-ex, so I do believe it works & would feed again if needed.

Can I ask what types of sarcoids they were please? I believe the one mine had was “nodular” (once results have come to me I should know!). Good to know that it worked for you!

 

[doodle]

Yes I stopped after they disappeared.

 

[loz9]

Can I ask what types of sarcoids they were please? I believe the one mine had was “nodular” (once results have come to me I should know!). Good to know that it worked for you!

The first horse was nodular, no ulceration, just a obvious sphere shaped lump under the skin. The second horse had 1 that was occult & the other started as occult, but became fibroblastic. The fibro is the one that he cut off with his rug.

 

[scrat]

Used it for about a year for one nodular sarcoid on a 2 year old. The sarcoid was about halfway between hock and top of her tail. Started off as a pea sized lump and grew to about 4cm by 3cm. I think the Sarc x did make a difference but it took about 6 months before it began to change. It looked worse for a while then sort of went dry and scaley, shrunk and disappeared. This was a young horse that had a poor start in life so I believe that boosting her immune system with this suppliment, along with good diet, helped her to see off this sarcoid. She is now 10 and she has been clear since. We also used Restore https://www.globalherbs.co.uk/product/restore alongside the sarce x when it was at its worst.

 

[SpotsandBays]

The first horse was nodular, no ulceration, just a obvious sphere shaped lump under the skin. The second horse had 1 that was occult & the other started as occult, but became fibroblastic. The fibro is the one that he cut off with his rug.

Ok thank you! I’ve not long got an email and the wart removed is confirmed as a Verrucas sarcoid!

 

[SpotsandBays]

Used it for about a year for one nodular sarcoid on a 2 year old. The sarcoid was about halfway between hock and top of her tail. Started off as a pea sized lump and grew to about 4cm by 3cm. I think the Sarc x did make a difference but it took about 6 months before it began to change. It looked worse for a while then sort of went dry and scaley, shrunk and disappeared. This was a young horse that had a poor start in life so I believe that boosting her immune system with this suppliment, along with good diet, helped her to see off this sarcoid. She is now 10 and she has been clear since. We also used Restore https://www.globalherbs.co.uk/product/restore alongside the sarce x when it was at its worst.

Interesting! The horse with the wart that was removed is two! Thanks for the info, I’ll take a look at the restore too!

 

[Littlebear]

Ok thank you! I’ve not long got an email and the wart removed is confirmed as a Verrucas sarcoid!

Mine has the same one, I posted on here a while ago and a lot of people recommended sarc ex, I’ve used it religiously for a while (maybe 6 to 8 weeks ish) and it’s nearly vanished now.

 

[Jango]

Worked for one of mine, then didn't on my next horse who had them. When I called the helpline initially they said if it will help then you will see changes in around 6 months. If no changes to it after that time it's unlikely to work on that horse. I'd always try it first before the Liverpool cream. I know a few people who have used it and the wounds are awful. I would only use that for ones which were bothering the horse or somewhere which was rubbing with tack.

 

[SpotsandBays]

Thanks everybody! Lots to think about!

 

[brighteyes]

The thing with sarcoids is they are massively unpredictable and caused by the Bovine Papilloma Virus. It seems to follow that young horses, if susceptible, get them before they are four and some resolve spontaneously and without interference from anyone. If they do this, it also seems to follow that they never recur. If a horse reaches the age of seven without developing sarcoids, then it is very unlikely that they will.

These success stories might just be the immune system doing whatever it does coincidentally with the feeding of Sarc-Ex or other relatively 'harmless' feedstuffs. I would caution against interfering with them in any way by putting the latest mad fad preparation on them as they tend to proliferate rapidly and then you really will have problems.

Just observe them, make sure the horse is bodily well and get the vet if any seem to be turning a bit nasty-looking.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

Ok people, talk to me! Some of you may have seen my posts about my horse who had a wart in his mouth, it was removed and sent off and results are that it’s a sarcoid.
Now, I know I need to be aware as it is likely that he will develop more. So I was doing some research and stumbled upon sarc-ex. Has anybody used this? As he doesn’t have any currently, I’m thinking of a preventative measure. But am reluctant to just try it as I guess I won’t know if it’s working or not until another one forms (which I’ll then know that it isn’t working!)
Any good or just a gimmick? Thanks in advance!

did help mine, kept her on it till they went

 

[SpotsandBays]

The thing with sarcoids is they are massively unpredictable and caused by the Bovine Papilloma Virus. It seems to follow that young horses, if susceptible, get them before they are four and some resolve spontaneously and without interference from anyone. If they do this, it also seems to follow that they never recur. If a horse reaches the age of seven without developing sarcoids, then it is very unlikely that they will.

These success stories might just be the immune system doing whatever it does coincidentally with the feeding of Sarc-Ex or other relatively 'harmless' feedstuffs. I would caution against interfering with them in any way by putting the latest mad fad preparation on them as they tend to proliferate rapidly and then you really will have problems.

Just observe them, make sure the horse is bodily well and get the vet if any seem to be turning a bit nasty-looking.

The one in question has been removed due to the location, but I was just wondering about preventative measures with this supplement - if it works. I guess it can’t do any harm if it doesnt! Interesting information though, thank you!

 

[Millie-Rose]

Have also heard that it either works or not at all. A livery had her mare on it for a year as she had a few nodular scarcoids in her groin. She took her off it as hadn't worked and almost immediately they started growing hugely aggressively and had to be lasered off. Might have been a coincidence but was no change at all in the year she was on it.

 

[rextherobber]

I used it successfully, then used it as a preventative for the next couple of summers as think the virus is spread by flies? Never had any further issues (touch wood!)

 

[J&S]

I got in a vet who also specialised in homeopathic treatment. He recommended Thuja tablets to start, some dissapeared, they were like little buttons all along under her tummy. One stayed and became quite oozy and bled, this he removed by freezing it off/out. After the removal he made up specific tablets which I gave her daily for at couple of years and then tailed them off. She was just five when they appeared and is now 23 and never had any more.

 

[SpotsandBays]

I used it successfully, then used it as a preventative for the next couple of summers as think the virus is spread by flies? Never had any further issues (touch wood!)

Yeah. This is what I’m thinking, maybe using it for a while as a preventative! Not sure how long to go for though!

 

[SpotsandBays]

I got in a vet who also specialised in homeopathic treatment. He recommended Thuja tablets to start, some dissapeared, they were like little buttons all along under her tummy. One stayed and became quite oozy and bled, this he removed by freezing it off/out. After the removal he made up specific tablets which I gave her daily for at couple of years and then tailed them off. She was just five when they appeared and is now 23 and never had any more.

Interesting! I’ll have a google of Thuja!

 

[Regandal]

If you’re on Facebook, there’s a group called The Sarcoid Centre. The lady who runs it makes up herbal mixes and cream. Going by the pictures posted, it gets rid of some belters of sarcoids. The herbal mix may be of benefit for your horse?

 

[SpotsandBays]

If you’re on Facebook, there’s a group called The Sarcoid Centre. The lady who runs it makes up herbal mixes and cream. Going by the pictures posted, it gets rid of some belters of sarcoids. The herbal mix may be of benefit for your horse?

Great I’ll take a look!

 

[rextherobber]

Yeah. This is what I’m thinking, maybe using it for a while as a preventative! Not sure how long to go for though!

Yep, know what you mean, I used it for maybe 2 summers, and then used it again this summer as it was so hot, and there were so many flies, so that was maybe a 4-5 year gap.

 

[Shoei]

The cream worked on my horses sarcoids. Completely disappeared and touch wood not returned..
5 years later!

My friend also had good results from the feed supplement

 

[charterline]

One of my horses had what looked like a sarcoid in her groin. Unsure if I bought her with it, or if it developed whilst I had her. (Only noticed it after 18 months of ownership due to where it was.)

I first saw it in the middle of winter, whilst she wasn’t being ridden, wasn’t causing any issues. Next time I looked closely, few months later, it had gone

 

[TotalMadgeness]

If you’re on Facebook, there’s a group called The Sarcoid Centre. The lady who runs it makes up herbal mixes and cream. Going by the pictures posted, it gets rid of some belters of sarcoids. The herbal mix may be of benefit for your horse?

I contacted this lady about my connie's sarcoids but she said I had to take him off oat straw and linseed. I wasn't given a scientific reason why so sadly didn't feel able to pursue the herbal route (the linseed I could drop but I use the oat straw for managing his weight). So I put him on spirulina and Echinacea instead and the sarcoids disappeared. My conclusion? They weren't sarcoids, or, his immune system finally kicked in. He'd had a poor start in life and he's had both sarcoids and melanomas in that short time (he's now 7).