Sarciods - which treatment?!

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My 6yo mares results came back today confirming she has sarciods :( there's 7 of them together covering the size of two 10ps, just behind where the girth goes. The vet has said we can use the sarciod cream from Liverpool, which needs applying 3/4 times 3/4 days inbetween which the vet needs to come out to apply. Or for her to go to the vets and have the skin around the area removed, leaving an opened wound. Don't know which one to choose!
Anyone had any experiences good or bad? Thank you :)
 
My mare had a sarcoid on her neck about 2 inches in diameter. We used the cream. It took a little while to go but she didn't seem fazed by it, and she was only left with a small scar.
 
Hi, My horse had 3 small sarcoids which were treated with Liverpool Cream successfully nearly two years ago with very little scarring so from my experience would definitely recommend
 
I have spent around £500 on sarcoids on my 7 y.o. gelding over the past two years. I tried Forest Farmacy sarcoid powder for a year which didnt help much... it slowed the growth down of the ones he had but they never dissapeared or fell off. Then i have been using Global herbs SarcX for a year (spent £300 on powder) which has worked similar to forest pharmacy. The sarcoids have not grown much apart from one on his eye which has got quite big but they have not gone. Tried Xterra Cream last summer which helped some of them to go but its so expensive £100 for a tiny amount. Wouldnt use Camrossa as it encourages growth/healing which is not what you want as you want to kill the sarcoid source. My vet has sent images to liverpool and we are currently waiting for response as the eye area is quite fragile for the strong cream. Oh and if the sarcoids are golf ball like on the inside of his back legs we put lamb castration on them and the sarcoids fell off but make sure you put antiseptic on it daily and better to do it in winter rather than summer (flies). One vet recommended the bands but the other said it is too dangerous. It is so so fustrating! I just pray they dont go around the saddle area as that will prevent me from riding such a good horse. I sometimes feel sorry for myself about them when i should actually feel sorry for the horse. Good Luck :)
 
Hiya my last horse (owned for 7 years) had them when he was a young man, well about 4 or 5. I was told to leave well alone. which i did and he just grew out of them. My friend has a 17.3hh colored gelding he had one on his tummy and she went into having it treated which only made it 10 times worse and caused him a lot of unnecessary annoyance with it, he then had to have it surgically removed. I would say unless its causing any pain or discomfort in an important area I would leave well alone. There nothing serious unless they grow rapidly in size over a short period of time. applying cream ect isn't good there supposed to be kept dry and away from fly's etc, which you shouldn't have man issues with atm as its bloody freezing. Good luck! :o
 
I am currently using global herbs Sarcex powder and cream, I have tied off two so far using plaiting thread and feeding the powder and using cream they have both successfully died and fallen off and healed as though they were never there! Both were about the size of a 10p, the third on her back leg has stopped growing now and we are waiting to see what happens with it. I have gone thro 2 tubs and they recommend 6 at least to stop them coming back permently
 
So sorry to hear about your horse :( My experiences are as follows:

Amazing ID mare. Sarcoids on girth area. In the days before Liverpool cream :eek: Skin removed but they kept coming back and she was eventually retired from ridden work.

Yearling trakehner filly. 1 sarcoid near udder. Treated with Liverpool cream and never returned.

Given where the sarcoids are, I would get a consult with Derek Knottenbelt (sp?) at Liverpool. I don't want to worry you but if not treated properly, it could potentially be the end of her ridden career as sarcoids are very painful and if they are located round the girth area it can make riding impossible. My experience with the Liverpool cream was good, and although painful, it was effective and quick. It will very much depend on the sarcoid though I expect.
 
Hello,

I have been treating one of my boys sarciods with blood root oitment and it has worked well but I had also put him on Milk thistle and the smaller sarciods he has under his sheath area (not treated with blood root) have all gone! I am not sure if this is because of the Milk thistle or they have just gone naturally. It might be worth a try as they do say to try and treat from the inside out as Milk thistle is a detox so it might have been that which worked?? :)
 
Personally I wouldn't mess about with alternative treatments and would go straight for the Liverpool cream.

I tried a few other things first and made the sarcoid much worse.

Liverpool cream made it a bit gory for a few weeks but it fell off after approx. 6 weeks and now there isn't even a scar there.

Just wish I had used the 'proper' stuff from the start and definitely wouldn't try anything else if another sarcoid appeared.
 
I had my horses sarcoid on his neck cut out under local anaethetic as he kept catching on the dreadful barbed wire at the dreadful yard I used to keep him at. He died a few months later so I never got to find out if it would have grown back. I've heard brilliant things about the Liverpool cream. If you are on insurance it won't matter if the vet has to come out a lot to apply the cream other than the fact that your premium will go up next year, but having said that it will probably go up anyway!

I'd have the cream to be honest, as having it removed could be more damaging to the skin and increase the risk of infection entering the site too.
 
titchymoo said:
Hiya my last horse (owned for 7 years) had them when he was a young man, well about 4 or 5. I was told to leave well alone. which i did and he just grew out of them.
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Lots of horses have juvenile warts that they 'grow out of'. Did you have a biopsy done to prove they were sarcoids? Sarcoids are a form of benign skin cancer and there is no evidence that horses can 'grow out' of them.

millitiger said:
Personally I wouldn't mess about with alternative treatments and would go straight for the Liverpool cream.

Just wish I had used the 'proper' stuff from the start and definitely wouldn't try anything else if another sarcoid appeared.
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I have seen this happen so many times. Sarcoids are a pain in the bum. There is no one 'cure' that will work for every horse, and there are a number of different types of sarcoid. I have seen the Liverpool cream work brilliantly on a number of horses (and donks) and it would be my choice for a sarcoid which was increasing in size or in a position where it couldn't be left.

I'm lucky with my boy in that his sarcoid type only grows to a certain size and then shells, he's never had any bother and never required treatment (and yes, biopsy has proved it is sarcoids).

It's definitely worth seeking the advice of Prof Knottenbelt, even if you choose not to go down the route of liverpool cream. There is loads of good advice and research on the liverpool website too :)
 
definitely would not have the skin removed. All sarcoids have roots so unless they removed a huge amount of flesh then the roots will still be there and they will grow back more aggressively than before

in this case and their location I would go with liverpool cream,

with large sarcoids it's best to inject them with the cream as it works brilliantly and there's no rubbing off but sounds like these are tiny so apply it directly should work fine.

buy a big tub of vaseline to put round the outside of the area so the cream doesn't go on healthy skin (that was advice I was given by vet)
 
I've treated 2 horses and a donk with Bloodroot ointment and it's worked. They've shriveled to a thick scab and fell off. It's not cheap, I paid 120euro for a small tub (which I dropped a spilled :mad:) Ive used a castration band on another one the donk had on his sheath. It fell off after a couple of weeks. No scar.

Here a pic of the banded sarcoid on the Donk, silver spray to keep the flies off.
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I've treated 2 horses and a donk with Bloodroot ointment and it's worked. They've shriveled to a thick scab and fell off. It's not cheap, I paid 120euro for a small tub (which I dropped a spilled :mad:) Ive used a castration band on a big one on the donks sheath.

Here a pic of the banded sarcoid on the Donk, silver spray to keep the flies off.
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