Sarcoid update.

[exracehorse]

Sarcoid was lazzered before I bought him. 7 years ago. Flat burnt type scar on inner stiffle. Size 50p piece. Within a very short time it changed. Grew blister type gatherings. That joined. To grow a mass. Like a cauliflower head. It would bleed. Especially in the summer. With tail swishing. It would be covered. Had vet out again December after he knocked it. And it was bleeding. Second photo. Vet said either lazer again. Or Liverpool treatment. But too big for Liverpool. So .. I’ve gone down the turmeric and oily herb route. After reading good reports on this forum and ordered on line.Photos are over three months. As I thought nothing to lose. First photo summer. When at its biggest. But not bleeding. Bleeding sarcoid was December. Vet out again. That’s when I introduced the oily herbs and tummeric
I’ve definnately seen an improvement. It’s separating in the middle. And has reduced in size I’m really hoping it continues to shrink

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

My horse had a verrucous sarcoid in his axilla (armpit) and people might laugh, but I mixed turmeric and sudocrem and lathered it on religiously for a couple of months and it just disappeared. The vet confirmed the disappearance. O
Yours is much more serious tho. Have you considered banding?

 

[GreyDot]

What oily herbs are you using?

 

[Xmasha]

id get that sorted by the vets, and pronto before the flies start back

 

[exracehorse]

id get that sorted by the vets, and pronto before the flies start back

I had the vet out in December. I had Carolyn from Linkswood. Options were lazer again. He’d stay for a week. But.. would be a mess. And it’s sitting on an artery. Any single cell left behind would mean re growth. It’s regularly checked. And because it didn’t interfere with tack etc. we just monitored it. Suddenly in December, he knocked it. And it was bleeding. He was sedated. It was cleaned. Antibiotics given. Long conversation on what to do.

 

[exracehorse]

My horse had a verrucous sarcoid in his axilla (armpit) and people might laugh, but I mixed turmeric and sudocrem and lathered it on religiously for a couple of months and it just disappeared. The vet confirmed the disappearance. O
Yours is much more serious tho. Have you considered banding?

There is no neck. It’s unfortunately

 

[ihatework]

If that even so much as starts to flare from where it is now I’d hit it bloody hard, probably with Liverpool cream. I’m pretty relaxed about sarcoids but that is one that I wouldn’t be blaze about

 

[exracehorse]

Latest photo.

 

[GreyDot]

Looking better!

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

That looks great! What oily herbs are you feeding?

 

[exracehorse]

That looks great! What oily herbs are you feeding?

Two token feeds a day. In each feed I’m putting two tablespoons of Tumeric. A table spoon of rosemary. Thyme. Oregano. Basil. Spearmint. Plus teaspoon of salt. And one of black pepper.

 

[SantaVera]

Remember when everyone advised toothpaste for sarcoids? When did that idea die a death? ( I'm not advocating it's use btw).

 

[Annagain]

It's hard to tell from the photo if it's any smaller as they're different sizes and from different distances but it certainly looks a lot less angry. I'd still be keeping a very close eye on it and thinking about a plan B in case it flares up.

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

Remember when everyone advised toothpaste for sarcoids? When did that idea die a death? ( I'm not advocating it's use btw).

I think it's still practised, honestly I have had everything recommended:
- toothpaste
- 'the sarcoid cure'
- sarc-ex
- thuja cream
- bloodroot cream
- cutting out oils and soya from diet
- turmeric
- oily herbs
- radiance gold
- Tracey's paste/herb feed

It's a how long is a piece of string and how much are you willing to spend/risk your head applying stingy paste to a sheath

 

[olop]

I use Carolyn from Linkswood she is brilliant!
My boy had a sarcoid of his tummy, it took nearly a year but I used the sarcoid cure on his and it went away, it wasn’t a pretty process though! I was lucky with mine as I could cover it up with rugs.

 

[Polos Mum]

Remember when everyone advised toothpaste for sarcoids? When did that idea die a death? ( I'm not advocating it's use btw).

It's the fluoride (just that toothpaste is an easy way to get your hands on it)

I had great success with high strength fluoride toothpaste I had to ask for in pharmacy - not on the shelf
Could be coincidence that it just chose to disappear at the same time - but it's not been back in a year so I'd try it again should the need arise.

Sarcoid is = cancer though - not all skin cancers are the same so not all sarcoids will react to treatment in the same way.
Which is probably why some things work for some horses and not others.

 

[Goldenstar]

That’s a nasty sarcoid .

 

[exracehorse]

I use Carolyn from Linkswood she is brilliant!
My boy had a sarcoid of his tummy, it took nearly a year but I used the sarcoid cure on his and it went away, it wasn’t a pretty process though! I was lucky with mine as I could cover it up with rugs.

Yes. She’s my vet too. She took photos to show a lady who lasers. But it was on a vein and if one single cell was left it would come back. Plus because he was lasered in the past , he’s really funny about it. You can’t touch it. Even looking at it, he gets anxious. He tries to kick so aftercare would be difficult.

 

[Goldenstar]

I have had sarcoids layered twice .

 

[vhf]

Two token feeds a day. In each feed I’m putting two tablespoons of Tumeric. A table spoon of rosemary. Thyme. Oregano. Basil. Spearmint. Plus teaspoon of salt. And one of black pepper.

I'd never heard oily herbs for sarcoids before this thread, and I've had enough nasty sarcoid experience to last a lifetime... my 21 yo old mare had one that she's been quietly growing for several years. Out the way, simple, vet recommendation leave well alone. This winter my other horse went on oily herbs (oregano, thyme, rosemary) so she did too. Within weeks, her sarcoid lifted up and dropped off. It wasn't done with anything in mind beyond it being simpler to give them both the same thing than not. Coincidence?? Who knows. But it had done nothing except grow extremely slowly for the ten previous years. I'm monitoring the site with curiosity!

 

[Annagain]

It's the fluoride (just that toothpaste is an easy way to get your hands on it)

I had great success with high strength fluoride toothpaste I had to ask for in pharmacy - not on the shelf
Could be coincidence that it just chose do disappear at the same time - but it's not been back in a year so I'd try it again should the need arise.

Sarcoid is = cancer though - not all skin cancers are the same so not all sarcoids will react to treatment in the same way.
Which is probably why some things work for some horses and not others.

Quite, and not all growths will be sarcoids. That seems to have become the catch all term for any growth that isn't a melanoma but some could well be simple harmless warts that may disappear spontaneously or respond to some of the treatments mentioned above.

 

[JBM]

I’m feeding turmash and was putting thuja cream on
Was going to rubber band it after the flies left but it’s just starting to fall off now couldn’t say what worked!

 

[MagicMelon]

Had 2 horses with a sarcoid which got irritated by flies (got a bit red and bloody looking like yours) - smeared turmeric mixed with sudocrem all over them and fed golden paste, literally those sarcoids healed up and vanished. After years, neither of those sarcoids came back. I still have one of the horses and all I can see is a small bump under his hair but hair is covering it and its never caused any issues since (about 10 years ago I did it!). I honestly just laugh at the turmeric haters - it worked beautifully for my two horses and the golden paste is brilliant for putting me to sleep at night, knocks me right out!

 

[exracehorse]

Latest photo. Looking so much better. Hair is starting to grow around it too.

 

[tristars]

that went fibroblastic in type at its worst, i would spray with silver spray thats what i did on the same type, it was going just like your horses but very much smaller, i grow herbs for the horses, and used equine america turmeric with black pepper, i took the leave it strictly alone route, even blessed it daily with water from a saints well!

the silver spray is brill it keeps off the flies, protects and stops the bleeding irritation that encourages growth also perhaps keeping it a little airtight perhaps

looks a lot better for you thank god

 

[exracehorse]

that went fibroblastic in type at its worst, i would spray with silver spray thats what i did on the same type, it was going just like your horses but very much smaller, i grow herbs for the horses, and used equine america turmeric with black pepper, i took the leave it strictly alone route, even blessed it daily with water from a saints well!

the silver spray is brill it keeps off the flies, protects and stops the bleeding irritation that encourages growth also perhaps keeping it a little airtight perhaps

looks a lot better for you thank god

Yes I’m packing in the Tumeric salt and oily herbs. Where did you get the silver spray from. Local chemist ?

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

I am pleased to say that Dex's have all but disappeared (or are flat, grey and dry and on their way out) after all looking quite nasty, red and scabbed at one point. The one on his face is just waiting for the rest of the hair to come back - I am thrilled!

I hope yours are on the same trajectory OP!

 

[tristars]

Yes I’m packing in the Tumeric salt and oily herbs. Where did you get the silver spray from. Local chemist ?

no its veterinary product, aluspray i think its called, also from agricultural merchants under cattle goods for injuries etc also some saddlers

 

[exracehorse]

Still feeding herbs. And lots Tumeric. The actual size has reduced. Vet was very pleased when she visited. Hair is starting to grow. Yes, it’s still a big one. On his inner stiffle. But every year it used to grow. And was angry in the summer with the flies. This summer it did not bleed.