Sarcoids, liverpool cream, how long?

[horseywelsh]

Just wondered for those who had treated sarcoids with Liverpool cream how long did it take for sarcoids to start changing? and be gone completley? After the initial intense cream application did you need to any further applications, if so how many weeks after initial treatment was this done? Thanks.

Have a horse that has just finished the week application of Liverpool cream for 3 tiny sarcoids. They have started to change, part of one has dropped off, another not realy changed at all. Vet said could take at least 4 weeks. Just wanted to hear of others experiences. Have heard good reviews on the global herbs sarc-ex and tempted to add this to my horses diet as well.

 

[leflynn]

My Boy's took about 2 weeks to start shrivelling up and after 4 they were gone and still have gone *touches wood* a couple fo months later

I'm tempted to put on sarc ex as a preventative thing as he is still undergoing treatment for another larger one (ongoing for another few months)

 

[Chloe-V]

One of my mares was first treated with Liverpool cream in May - it seemed to only partly get it with it reacting but not progressing for about 10 weeks - vet just said keep waiting a bit longer then it reacted suddenly (angrily and with a vengence so to speak) not coming away but mushrooming alarmingly to four times its size .
Just finished a second treatment last week and it has just fallen off yesterday to leave a large hole - as if you'd used something like an ice cream scoop - very deep and messy but it looks as if we've got it at last !!
The whole thing has been really traumatic for her and very, very painful. I think I'd have to think long and hard before I'd put her through this again as they were fairly small when we started (not now) but it looks as if we are getting somewhere now, thank goodness - poor horse.
Thinking of trying sarc ex as well now.

 

[horseywelsh]

One of my mares was first treated with Liverpool cream in May - it seemed to only partly get it with it reacting but not progressing for about 10 weeks - vet just said keep waiting a bit longer then it reacted suddenly (angrily and with a vengence so to speak) not coming away but mushrooming alarmingly to four times its size .
Just finished a second treatment last week and it has just fallen off yesterday to leave a large hole - as if you'd used something like an ice cream scoop - very deep and messy but it looks as if we've got it at last !!
The whole thing has been really traumatic for her and very, very painful. I think I'd have to think long and hard before I'd put her through this again as they were fairly small when we started (not now) but it looks as if we are getting somewhere now, thank goodness - poor horse.
Thinking of trying sarc ex as well now.

Glad to hear you are making some progress. How small were they? My horses are about 1 cm in diameter, vet did keep me reassuring me they were only small, not to worry etc
. I know one of them is biger inside though than what is showing on the surface as I can now feel quite a hard lump under the skin with the tiny pea type sarcoid stuck in the middle (this is the one where the actual visible sarcoid bit hasn't changed).

 

[Chloe-V]

Sound about the same size to yours to start with but there were three grouped close together.
They looked nothing really on the first photos we sent to Leahurst for diagnosis but I lost a young horse to one that turned out to be malignant last year and turned into a huge tomour so I recognised it straight away (these aren't the malignant type, thank goodness) and I didn't want to leave them in case they were something sinister.
To the naked eye they just looked like a darkening on the skin but if you enlarged the photos on the computer you could just see they were in fact raised and did have depth into the skin. The change after the cream aggravated them was alarming.
Meant to say originally they were small but grew to about three inches and flat across them all after the first treatment and then mushroomed to the size of a tennis ball (looked a bit like a volcano erupting - sorry to be graphic but best description I can think of).

On the second treatment I had her sedated properly each time so the vet could really get a good go at it and get cream into the cracks that developed after the first treatment without her leaping around to try and get away and I think it helped.
Just hope we've got it this time, poor horse has had enough.
According to my vet it can take up to 2 or 3 months to come away. I do hope yours works.

 

[horseywelsh]

Chloe-V thankyou ever so much for your detailed reply and sorry to hear about your other horse.

During the treatment she hasn't batted an eyelid about the cream been applied and they don't seem to be sore or bothering her at all which I am relieved about as I was worried whether it was the right route to go down or not. Each one is in a different place and none are malignant type. they seemed to change quite quikcly after application 1 and 2 but now not much seems to be happening.

 

[Chloe-V]

Thank you.
That's excellent, glad your horse was fine with the treatment, hopefully it'll get it properly for you. If it's not bothering her at all I'd take that as a positive sign.
Don't worry if nothing changes for a while now, it should be healing up normally underneath the sarcoid and then drop off to leave healthy flesh - but it can take ages.
In my heart of hearts I think I was right to go ahead with the treatment for mine as it looks as if we've got it now but it has been awful for her.
Going to try sarc ex now and see how we go.