Sarcoids owner perception

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Hello all,

I would like to find out more about the owner perception of what sarcoids are, how to treat them and attitude towards them. I am also looking to find out if any owners would be interested in a sarcoid information evening in their area, and if so where they are located.

Would you try to treat the sarcoid yourself before getting a vet? If so what would you use/has it been successful.
Have you had sarcoids treated successfully and if so what methods have you used.
If your horse has sarcoids did you know about Prof. Knottenbelt and his referral services? Did you know that he supplies many types of treatment and if he can't supply it will suggest the best treatment option for your horse.

If anyone has any other information on their perception of sarcoids I would be very grateful!
 
I'm not too fussed about them in a young horse (4 and under), as they are prone to growing pains. Stress or vaccinations can have an adverse effect on their immune system, so that would be the first line of treatment for me. I've had two or three with thme, two went away on their own, the third never had a problem with his. I did know a very nice horse who suddenly got them erupting all over him at the age of 6. He was PTS, as they were around his eyes and all over the body. The last option would be the liverpool cream as it's so invasive.
 
My youngster had several last year (3 yo at the time) didn't mess around with a load of home lotions and potions. Got the vet, he sent photos to Prof. K, he came 5 times in the space of 7/8 days to apply the Liverpool cream. He was sedated each time, however by the last few applications he was just twitched (the largest one was on the base of his ear) towards the end he was just held in a headcollar because the sarcoid was basically dead so he could no longer feel it.
I wouldn't particularly describe the Liverpool cream as 'invasive'. My horse never looked in any pain (and he can be a real whimp!) Once the cream started to do it's job and the sarcoids started to die, the one on his ear became a bit itchy. Went to the yard one morning and it was gone (a little gutted I never found it TBH, would have been interesting to have a good look at it!)
If my boy ever got any more I'd do it again. He's homebred and not going anywhere so I don't really have a choice and although there are plenty of blemish free horses out there, a horse having sarcoids wouldn't put me off buying.
Obviously there are some sad stories like cundlegreen mentioned but these seem to be the minority. It really annoys me how the word 'sarcoid' seems to be some really dirty word, that's whispered about as though you should be ashamed your horse has them. I think there's a really bad stigma attached to it. I knew nothing about scaroids previously but really you find them, you treat them, it's done. To be honest, give a horse with sarcoids to treat over a horse with a mysterious on/off lameness issue any day!
 
I been at this a long time .
So I have seen lots of horses with sarcoids no I would never treat them myself .
Yes I know that photos of sarcoids can be sent to professor K there also other specialists in this field so he is not the only option .
I have treated lots of horses with Liverpool cream and more recently by lasering and some by surgically cutting them off which ever the vet thinks best .
I don't think Liverpool cream is particularly invasive but the first time I saw lasering it was a bit shocking .
 
I have a horse who has had a couple of sarcoids, both were banded and did not return.
Yes I know about Prof K, but dislike the preachy, protectionist vibe that surrounds Liverpool cream....there are other vets who are able to assess and treat a sarcoid.
 
I was aware of prof k. Didnt try anything myself, my vet instantly referred horse & Liverpool cream duly dispensed, along with bcg for one above eye.
Sarcoids mostly went, he had several, None of the other horses, on a very large, herd turnout yard got any, so not entirely convinced about the contagious part.
In my horses case, I think they were an outward sign of things going wrong inside & he was pts, with an abdominal tumour, before all the sarcoids had completely resolved.
I would never buy a horse with sarcoid & if any of my current herd get one i will be paranoid.
 
Would you try to treat the sarcoid yourself before getting a vet? If so what would you use/has it been successful. No, I would call the vet and get referred, probably to Dr Knottenbelt. Met him a good few years ago when referred a horse with really bad rash - turned out he was allergic to Birch Pollen - Dr Knottenbelt's treatment sorted it out.

Have you had sarcoids treated successfully and if so what methods have you used. Not on my own horses but with horses I have worked with. Some banded, two Liverpool cream, two surgical removal, some just left alone. The banded ones dropped off and did not return. The Liverpool cream ones resolved, one surgical one resolved and sadly the second surgical one was on the girth area and did not.

If your horse has sarcoids did you know about Prof. Knottenbelt and his referral services? Yes. Our vet referred us.

Did you know that he supplies many types of treatment and if he can't supply it will suggest the best treatment option for your horse. Yes

I have also seen a few horses whose sarcoids were the finish of them, and for that reason would probably not buy one with the issue, unless it was perfect and cheap too. Why buy a problem?
 
My boy had a few. My thoughts were to leave and monitor. I actually only had them treated as he was going under GA for something else. They were lasered but came back exactly as before, thankfully no bigger. My vet then did a course of Liverpool cream which was successful. There were 9 in total so that was 9 great big holes after they were lasered!

He has a new one. Under the skin in between his front legs. I'm going the same as before, just monitoring to see if it grows. If it does it will be treated according to what Prof. Knottenbelt recommends.
 
No, I wouldn't treat myself before getting the vet. My vet referred case to Prof K and sarcoids were treated successfully with Liverpool cream and one with BCG
 
My pony has had many, and we removed two last winter because they were causing issues. Honestly doesn't bother me, doesn't affect her appearance as long as they aren't causing pain they don't bother me.

I keep her away from the flies in summer as they can grow and one on her face (removed) got infected.

Treatment worked really well, we opted for the cream, but has left a scar from a bigger one on her leg which is annoying but unless you were looking at her legs in particular you wouldn't notice.
 
What are sarcoids? Locally invasive tumours of the skin that we don't know nearly enough about. Seems to be an awful lot of them about these days.
No, I wouldn't attempt to 'treat' one myself before consulting a vet and I wouldn't waste my money on any of the herbal 'immune support' supplements either.
I've only ever had one horse with a sarcoid - my 4-year old developed a nodular sarcoid in summer 2015. My vets refer all suspected sarcoids to Prof K (I was aware of his work in sarcoids) who recommended LC - although the sarcoid was only tiny, it was right on top of a blood vessel so the plan was to treat it aggressively, to hopefully prevent spread and/or recurrence. Treatment was successful and so far, no recurrence or new ones.
 
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