sarcoids

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my horse has sarcoids , they dont seem to bother him and iv not noticed any growth, he has one on his private area, one under his stomach ( not near girth) one under chest, and a tiny one on his cheek and above his eye. the one above his eye is obviously a concern as its in a bad plce. is there anything i can put on them or feed him that will help though. iv never experienced them
 
How close to the eye is it?

I had a few lumps removed from two of my horses a while back. The one near my chestnut's eye was thought to be a sarcoid, so it was removed and not stitched. However the lab found that it wasn't a sarcoid after all. :)

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post op - not stitched on purpose, it healed really well.
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Then my grey had three suspected melanomas removed (one to start with and then two a few months later) from her cheek. Once again they turned out to not be sinister (neither melanomas or sarcoids, but a fungus).

lump 1
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lumps 2 and 3 post op.
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True sarcoids need professional intervention. Call your vet out and they will send photographs to your local specialist. The photographs of my horse were sent to Proffesor Knottenbelt at Leahurst. My horse had one over his eye it was treat at first with Zorac cream but sarcoid came back the year after and was then treat with BCG injections back again after about 18 months. The horse was taken in to Leahurst last year for radiotherapy for two weeks and fortunately not damaged the eye. Sarcoids are cancer, horses get all sorts of lumps and bumps but do get them checked. As for applying something to the sarcoid I had a conversation with Proffesor Knottenbelt about the feeding of turmeric and application of Toothpaste and his reply was " cancer is cancer if your are prepared to treat your horse in this way would you accept this treatment for yourself if diagnosed with cancer. The silly B ******'s that do this I would happily send to prison on an animal welfare charge." I thought his answer was quite clear, good luck and get advice.x
 
Ouch ok its on like his eye lid? We had vet out the other day and she wasnt overly concerned as long as i havnt noticed it grow any larger or ooze
 
Ok thankyou. We had vet out on monday for another reason, but i asked about his sarcoids while i was there. And she said just to moniter them for growth and changes. And when i come to purchase date to knock his price down. As she said the one above his eye is in an awkward place and she wouldnt recommend messing about with it, until i notice changes/if any changes. Its a shame as hes a beautiful honest horse :(
 
I absolutely swear by using toothpaste! A mare I had on loan had two sarcoids that grew at a rate of knots between her back legs. One began to cause an issue as where it was growing quite large (finished up about the size of a golf ball) it rubbed against her stomach when cantering/schooling etc.

The owner couldn't quite afford to get these looked at by her vet at the time and the vet wanted to just band them. After some extensive research I suggested we give the toothpaste a go. Within 2 weeks both sarcoids had fallen off completely, leaving the tiniest hole in the skin. It's been nearly two years now and they haven't returned nor have any new ones appeared. Worth a try at 99p!
 
Annie B. said:
True sarcoids need professional intervention. Call your vet out and they will send photographs to your local specialist. The photographs of my horse were sent to Professor Knottenbelt at Leahurst.
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That's exactly what happened with my chestnut. It was Prof K who said to remove it with a large border and to not stitch the wound.
 
I have heard of that before but iv heard in some cases tooth paste could aggravate them :/. I was gunna try feeding tumeric and black pepper, then applying the same to it but mixed with sudocreme? You must have been well happy that they dropped off!
 
Faracat said:
Please don't mess about with unproven home remedies - all potential sarcoids should be taken very seriously and looked at by the Vet.
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Please listen, true sarcoids are cancer "fact". Toothpaste and turmeric remedies may work on various lumps due to the anti bacterial properties they do not work on Cancer.
 
Toothpaste can make them worse. I have personal experience of that, even the very strong toothpaste that has to be obtained by prescription. Turmeric, thuja etc didn't work at all on my horse, and banding them caused them to fall off...then grow again. Basically I've tried everything. He has now had 3 seperate sessions of Liverpool cream (3 x 4 applications) and hopefully most have cleared. He also had two cut out and frozen.

There is a some evidence that 'home' remedies work, however would just leaving them alone have worked as well? There are so many different varieties of sarcoid plus other assorted lumps and bumps. Personally, as in my own situation, if it isn't growing then don't do anything but monitor it closely. As soon as changes occur then start considering what action to take. If it falls off by itself then that is brilliant, but it doesn't happen often. My experience; and I've had two now with sarcoids (mother and son) is to take them seriously. They can very quickly get out of control.
 
FARACAT what did PROF K say when he found out that he had treated your horse for a sarcoid ? hope you do not .mind me asking.
We have a horse that had a grey patch on her face similar to a chestnut on a horses leg our vet sent photos of it to Prof k at Leahurst,and he diagnosed a sarcoid and advised our vet to use Liverpool cream,I did my own research and was convinced it was fungal,and I treated it with canasten cream twice a day I used just under 2 tubes ,there was not a mark left on her face ,that was in 2003 and to this day it never came back.
 
He only ever saw a photo of the chestnut horse's lump, not the grey's lumps that were thought to be melanomas and turned out to be fungal. I have no idea if my Vet has passed the chestnut's histology results on to him.
 
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