Schooling trouble - I warn you this is probably the longest post ever

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I've been having the same problem with my mare's schooling since I bought her 9 months ago and I really needs some ideas.

She moves forward nicely, goes in a correct outline, bends left and right although she is much stiffer to the right, does basic lateral work etc. I'm 99% certain is a true outline, not just holding her head in, as you can see her muscles along her neck and back and belly working, and she always tracks up in trot and over tracks in walk, and her topline is developing albeit slowly. She can work long and low when asked or more 'up and together'.

I lunge her regularly and she is the same , I alternate between using a chambon or side reins, or 2 lines.

Now the problem -

No matter what I ask her to do, no matter how much schooling we do or what exercises we try, she always feels like a bomb waiting to go off. She has this constant desire to go up a gear, whatever pace we are in. Other horses will feel really light and responsive, like you could put the reins down and they would carry on in the same outline in the same rhythm. She always feels like shes about to explode. She accepts the contact when my hands are still - but fights downwards transitions and half halts.

The only time I have truely felt like we weren't fighting was one time out hacking, we galloped a good 1-2miles and when i finally started to pull up she rounded up and cantered along for a bit really nicely, neck arched, back working, before dropping back into a big springy trot without any resistance at all.

Its like no matter how much you work her, it will never be enough and I really need some advice.

She lives out 24/7 on moderate grass, no hard feed except a handful of chaff containing garlic and a joint supplement.

She is worked every day, either schooling, lungeing, hacking or jumping if I'm feeling brave! In theory she isn't fit as I don't work her hard, but that said she rarely breaks a sweat or gets out of breath regardless of what you do with her.

Her teeth and back have both been checked since i moved yards 10 days ago and were fine - her teeth are being rasped next month but the vet said they are not bad and it shouldn't affect riding her.

I ride her in a dutch gag and running martingale. I believe the bit may well be too strong for her as she fights it less when i put the reins up a ring, although then it literally takes me three or four laps of the school to pull up from a canter!

I am intending to start having lessons on her in the next few weeks which hopefully will shed some light on the source of the problem.

Shes come such a long way since I bought her, from bombing off in canter within 5 minutes of you getting on and refusing to stop unless you ran her into a fence, but although she doesn't physically pretend to be a racehorse any more, in her head her attitude doesn't seem to have changed.

She is a 16.2 TB, 11 years old. She was bred to event and is not an ex racehorse (well, apparently!). I am at a loss as to the source of the problem, if its down to my riding, her schooling, the bit, or whatever, I've been battling for 9 months and I just want some ideas.


Cookies for getting this far.... any suggestions (literally any!) will be greatly welcomed.
 
Well it sounds like you have come a long way in 9 months so don't be too hard on yourself.

Lessons with an experienced instructor sounds like a good idea. I'd be inclined to say keep your schooling sessions varied and interested, play with lots of transitions and direction changes.

You've already done what I was going to say - out 24h and no concentrate feed!

What about adding a calmer suppliment, I have heard good things about the blue chip karma, although haven't used yet myself.
 
I'm with you on this one - I have a sharp TB who just loves to run (and do bear in mind that they're bred to run, ex-racers or not). What I do with my lad is:-

a) do lots of small serpentines so he has something to think about besides tanking off, this slows him down a bit (not a lot, he's very balanced, bless him) and set me up for a halt.

b) teach the aid to halt as a dead leg on strong with hardly any hand aid - I do this into a corner for the first few times. Use the school walls to help you stop.

c) give and take the reins regularly - I do this loads and loads at walk and trot so that it's not a big deal.

d) sit up straight - you'd be amazed how many TBs respond to a rider who curls forward in the saddle and think it means head for the hills..

You could try changing the bit - I'm not a bitting expert but you might think about a pelham instead. How does she go in a plain eggbutt snaffle? Some horses are more responsive to a mild bit, they learn to ignore the harsher ones.
 
THanks kit279, I do tend to hunch up which I'm sure has an effect on her - when i remember to sit up it helps! Iwill try the stopping thingy and serpentines too.

I can't use a pelham as the shanks don't suit her face - she has quite bony cheekbones and they rub. I've never been brave enough to try a snaffle as she will canter all day if you let her.

I was thinking about a calmer, thing is she is really dopey on the ground - falls asleep with her nose resting on the farriers bum, that sort of thing... was worried it would knock her out totally or not have any effect on her under saddle! If anyone could suggest something that might be suitable I'd be interested to hear it.

Strangely enough, she is better the more space you have - although I think it just feels better when youre going in a straight line instead of haring round corners!
 
I would try lifting into a downward transition instead of closing your hand. Start doing it from walk to halt gradually gently lift your hands straight up (As if raising a trophy!) as soon as she stops (probably to look round and ask what the heck are you doing now?!) drop them to normal position. You might end up with them head height the first couple of times and initially it looks ridiculous but they soon catch on and you can refine it and work through all the paces. Eventually you can apply a really subtle aid and they have nothing to lean on or run from and come back really sweetly. When I was shown this exercise I thought it was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard but I've used it with great success on a number of different horses. (I've got a video of the lesson somewhere if you want to watch it in action PM me)
 
Would deffo look at the bitting as my horse was a complete nightmare in a three ring snaffle of any description even tho I was told by owner that it was the only bit he should have. He is now in a waterford for schoolong, a pelham for hacking and a hackamore/waterford combo for jumping - only trouble it meant more shopping for more bridles!!!
 
I would.....

1) Teach her to listen to your body. Initially start with walk to halt transitions - ask with your hands but simultaneously close (but not grip with!) thighs and lift up through your rib cage to tighten your tummy - you should feel as though you are blocking her movement a little through your back. Once she has the idea phase out the hand aids completely, she should then be able to halt with just the leg/body aids. To half halt, you should be able to achieve this literally just by tightening your stomach. Once you have this, try it for trot to walk, and then canter to trot. Eventually you should be able to do canter to walk/halt without anything more than the tiniest feel on the reins and an ask with your body.

2) Put her in the mildest, most comfortable (according to her particular mouth confo) bit you can find! You should have much improved control from doing the above, so a mild bit will give her one less thing to tense about!

3) Work her in spirals - from a 20m circle very gradually down to a 10m. do them in each pace until she settles. Really concentrate on having her working and flexing inside leg to outside hand. Your hands should be soft and quiet, using you body to rebalance her when needed. Monotony and consistency should help her settle, it just sounds like she is a very hot headed lady! I bet she 'self winds' once something has excited her too?!

Hope this helps a bit, have been in your situation (and come out the other side
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