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Can I just measure with a tape measure or do I need to get the fit kit? First ever pair of barefoot boots so want to get it right and found some at a good price.
 
I've managed without a fit kit but any time I've gone off my own measurements I've measured too big. I've sent pics of my measuring to urban horse and they've been great to recommend sizes
 
Historically their sizes were def bigger than people were measuring (or say they bought the equivalent measurements to what they had in another brand) but I've heard that's a bit more improved now.
 
I tried the fit kit on mine but they just didn’t suit my horses hooves. Liz at Hoof Boutique didn’t think they would work by the photos I sent but i wanted to try the kits.
TBH I wouldn’t have known they didn’t fit without HB’s advice.
 
I liked the look of scoots but the staff at urban horse said unlikely to fit but sent a couple out in a fit kit, didnt fit at all. Flex also didnt fit although the measurements on paper were spot on.
Urban horse are v helpful.
HB are also v good they just take slightly longer to respond IME.
 
ester said:
Historically their sizes were def bigger than people were measuring (or say they bought the equivalent measurements to what they had in another brand) but I've heard that's a bit more improved now.
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Has it changed, I borrowed a farrier's fit kit a few years ago, havent bought but had assumed 5 slim 2 years ago will still fit?

Or more have they changed the charts, not the molds?

The charts used to be up to 2 sizes bigger than the actual fit!
 
Definitely use a fit kit - both times when measuring the boots would not have fit, I used hoof boutique for advice. Would have ended up with boots that did not fit or suit my horses both times.
 
A professional fitter would be best, someone who has the fit kits and can fit up a pair so you can lunge the horse to check they stay put. Definitely try the Enduro model, they offer a lot of flexibility for fit with the adjustable heel bulb, and the mud strap offers a lot of security (they can be used with the classic model too) Be prepared to play with them with the accessories, things like the antislip toe shim can make a difference, particularly when doing fast work.
You can also get a bit creative and fit studs to them using T nuts, I've been using the stud fast polymer studs, which I've been happy with. Haven't had any boot twist, but we have really good barefoot trims and the boots fit 100%
 
The boots I was recommended have arrived but they are far too big round the pastern and the straps really long as pulled as tight as possible. I don’t like them at all. I think they will rub. I was recommended then to try endurance pastern things but it’s just going too far for me…. I don’t want to keep adding things. They are fusion boots which is what urban horse recommended. The plastic bag is to keep them clean while trying on.


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It's such a minefield with fit, I'm new to the world of boots and barefoot too.

Not sure if it helps but my horse wears Cavallo Treks to hack out and has been on fun rides etc. in them too.
They are a bit clumpy and less sporty than some other styles, but I have found that makes the fit quite forgiving and less finicky.
He does wear Primark men's socks underneath, just to make sure no rubbing. We haven't had any issues but my view is better to prevent than try to cure!
 
You asked originally about Scoots - have a look at what Mark Johnson and his pal are doing with Scoots. Fitters will say they won't fit/suit the shape of your horses' feet but it is amazing how they can be adapted. Not suggesting you want to do the course they are advertising but may be worth a chat with Mark, or a visit...depending on where in the country you are. https://www.hoofbootfarriers.com/
 
Have you checked the Equine Fusions fit the hoof? I had to go down a size from what was recommended. The straps are a faff to start, but they do get easier. They didn't rub my pony though, which is the main thing as every other boot did.
 
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You asked originally about Scoots - have a look at what Mark Johnson and his pal are doing with Scoots. Fitters will say they won't fit/suit the shape of your horses' feet but it is amazing how they can be adapted. Not suggesting you want to do the course they are advertising but may be worth a chat with Mark, or a visit...depending on where in the country you are. https://www.hoofbootfarriers.com/
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I have seen that. One big problem with it is that you are basically going to have to pay someone to alter them (unless they do it for free). Just like employing a farrier to make a horseshoe that fits the horse so it is a boot that fits. Also if you alter them then if you don't like them you are stuck selling them on. Why would you go to the trouble of altering scoots when you could probably choose a different make and put them on straight out of the box.

I think having trimmers/farriers/specialists whatever we call them who can advise and fit boots in the field is great. I just don't see why they would limit themselves to scoots. (especially when they need mud straps)
Scoots have thin flexible soles. Good for some horses but not so good for thin soled horses.
I know one of these farriers so I have followed this with interest.
 
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millitiger said:
It's such a minefield with fit, I'm new to the world of boots and barefoot too.

Not sure if it helps but my horse wears Cavallo Treks to hack out and has been on fun rides etc. in them too.
They are a bit clumpy and less sporty than some other styles, but I have found that makes the fit quite forgiving and less finicky.
He does wear Primark men's socks underneath, just to make sure no rubbing. We haven't had any issues but my view is better to prevent than try to cure!
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Maybe this is what I get. I literally just need them for hacking and hillwork as shoes will go back on in March. I fitted some cavallo for the Shetland and they worked well. Right will send these back. I can’t be arsed with the faff for a 5 month of the year solution! At this rate she will have shoes on before I find the right ones.
 
Id agree with cavallos being less dependent on fit, the lower profile/less clompy the boot the more it relies on very good fit, which requires the right shaped hoof/trim. As they do regular and slim fits now I think it's unusual to find something that doesn't fit. The only thing is to monitor how tight they are over the heel bulbs but also a fan of some think blokes socks.
 
I always get second hand. If they aren't right or the feet change shape you can resell and not lose money. I even get a few pounds for boots I've worn out.
 
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Id agree with cavallos being less dependent on fit, the lower profile/less clompy the boot the more it relies on very good fit, which requires the right shaped hoof/trim. As they do regular and slim fits now I think it's unusual to find something that doesn't fit. The only thing is to monitor how tight they are over the heel bulbs but also a fan of some think blokes socks.
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She is 17hh and doesn’t have small feet! I can’t see her in socks! Maybe I will get some tubi grip
 
LEC said:
She is 17hh and doesn’t have small feet! I can’t see her in socks! Maybe I will get some tubi grip
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With Cavellos I use cheap 70-100 denier tights cut into 'tubes' on a Fell with some silky feather so the hair is smoothed the right way over heels and pasterns. Can get at least 2 pairs out of a large pair of tights ( got a 3-pack for about a fiver).
 
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My hairy cob has never had any rubs at all from either Scoots or cavallos, never wears socks or anything
My Arab had frequent rubbing from Cavallos and I ended up buying their pastern wraps. He also needs the Scoots trail gaiters which the cob doesn't
 
i've literally just had The Hoof Boot Shop out to fit boots and ended up with flex boots all round which are dead easy to use.

might be worth a fitting session?
 
Hallo2012 said:
i've literally just had The Hoof Boot Shop out to fit boots and ended up with flex boots all round which are dead easy to use.

might be worth a fitting session?
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Interesting - I actually know our local fitter from RC but didn’t know she did this! Thanks
 
Hallo2012 said:
i've literally just had The Hoof Boot Shop out to fit boots and ended up with flex boots all round which are dead easy to use.

might be worth a fitting session?
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I had flex boots (all round). Once they’ve been worn a bit, I found them extremely slippery on damp grass, more so than any other hoof boot. My horse fell right over twice on an EGB ride (at low speed) and grass was only damp not muddy.

Hopefully you’ll be fine, but advise testing how your horse finds them on wet grass.
 
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