Scummy Coronet....

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Ok, so after we discovered a scummy coronet band I promised my friend that there would be a thread promptly arriving on HHO about it....

Lifted fatty's sweaty feather to find a scummy coronet - it has been sort of flaky looking (always but now this is scummy) - you can kind of flake it off/roll it off.... I'd imagine this softened because her legs were sweaty and wet from her ride (needs clipping asap).

So, is a scummyish coronet band a worry - scummy portion is probably almost an inch thick and completely covered by feather..

Hooves fine generally - tranisitioning but fine.
 
Yep had experience of this (well not me personally, I mean the horse). It's a fungal infection.

It needs to be sorted ASAP otherwise the hoof growth from the coronet will be compromised. This works....soak the whole hoof up over the coronet band in a bowl of 50/50 water and sterilizing fluid (Napisan or similar from the supermarket) 4 times a week. Soak for at least 15 minutes each time and continue until the coronet band loses the yukky/soft/scummy appearance and returns to normal, usually takes about a month. I'd also recommend clipping the feathers to above the coronet band as the heat that's produced underneath them creates the perfect conditions for more scuzziness.
 
place a stocking over the fetlock to hold up the hair and leave like that for as long as possible, maybe half the day to let some air get to it, dont go picking or peeling anything, but definitely air
 
Sorry but I have no idea what you are trying to describe there!

As a committed hoof geek, my natural reaction is.... Please can post a photo??
 
Argh no picture and now I am freaking out at the suggestion of new hoof being compromised although I am secretly excited that somebody said I should clip her feathers - I swing between 'shall I clip and hog' and 'no how could I even think of it' regularly so this may just push me over the edge.

I will get a picture tomorrow. Ummm best way to describe it would be a layer of scuzz about an inch wide sitting on the top part of her hoof - like if you rubbed the scuzz it would kind of roll up/flake into little bits. You know if your fingers are mega dirty from grooming and you rub them together and get all the scuzz off - it comes off like that but obviously there is a fair bit of it.

I have been in touch with the farrier to ask him to come out (since Tuesday actually) but haven't heard back yet.

Thank you for the washing advice - is this something I should be worried about or just a 'don't worry but sort it' situation? I am a mega worrier....
 
the periopole bit at the top of the hoof

like here http://www.ironfreehoof.com/horse-hoof-anatomy.html (number 6)

in which case if it is a bit soft and flakey I don't think I would worry!

eta a flakey looking one!

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I do know about this as I took a traditional coloured on loan (I subsequently bought him). He had fabulous feathers but underneath a lurked a nightmare, nasty stinky yellowish coronet bands, all soft and scuzzy caused, according to the lady who came to trim his feet, by the wet weather that year and the heat produced by his thick feathers.

Sooo...Billie, a question....does the scuzz smell funny? Are his coronets soft. And what colour are they?
 
Yes Ester! Like that but thicker and soft and flakey when she has sweated. I couldn't find any pics on the net hence my post! Thanks!

So I'm not forced to clip and hog her for her own health? :(

I will still check with the farrier incase it is the fungal infection mentioned though!

Gala, I am notorious for smelling things (I have to) (even a bean once - don't ask) but I didn't smell this! The scuzz is white/grey.....
 
Yes that is just the periopole, basically it is the quick like our own fingernails. Usually the farrier rasps this off so you never see it.barefooters tend tos just leavi it be. It causes no problems and will just flake away as and when.
 
Frank's welsh feathers also hold the general moisture more (not just sweat) than if I clip his legs off/ more than mum's anglos legs. I never worry about that bit though, have only clipped when he is in proper work and gets scabby mud-fever like bits on his legs where he sweats.
 
sounds like the periople is coming away due to being in the bath too long. ideally you could do with bandaging his feathers up or clip off(!!!) and get him onto some dry (??) ish field or hard standing and allow to dry up. it can be gently rubbed off of your farrier can tidy this up for you. if soggy and smelly then obv treat with a foot rot spray/saline solution/canestan and allow to dry out. dont panic shouldnt be the end of the world, and relatively easy to treat.
 
I'm struggling a little to see how that bit can be infected... not sure if anyone can clarify if that is actually possible?

have to say I wouldn't bandage hairy legs.. just because IME that makes skin issues worse (and skin issues I think are worse than a flakey periople).

hopefully farrier can put your mind at rest op.
 
Ester - fungi such as trichophytan species ( ie ringworm) are keratopathogenic so can infect hoof tissue also. It is commonly isolated from coronary shaves taken from poor hooves though in a small number of healthy hooves it can also be present. I treat it with daktaran cream.
 
What would an auto immune disease mean for the horse or does it just depend on other factors? I had another look today and it looks exactly the same as the big picture posted on the thread previously, it had obviously become really soft and sweaty after her fast work and seemed gunky. When I can get hold of the blo~dy farrier I will ask him to look at go from there...
 
They can get thrush here too. If it is just white and flakey I wouldn't worry to much. If it's quite white and waxy this is good. It is the protective layer where the new horn that is softer is protected and transitions into Harder horn. It should b left alone unless there is a problem! :-)
 
Whist waiting for the farrier I would still pull up the feathers by way of a bandage or stocking give the feet a good disinfectant (it cant hurt) and let the air get to it and dry it out. Fungus hates air.
 
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