Seaweed and rosehip?

Anything sourced from the sea risks being contaminated with metals.
When you buy seaweed the bags does not even give you the levels of basic vits and mins do you really think they are testing each batch for contaminants .
 
Saddlesore, I doubt there's any regulation. There was a thread on here or similar ages ago about cigarette butts in a supplement product (not going to name the company because I might have remembered it wrong). It's medicines that have to be regulated not food supplement.

OP, I haven't checked the ingredients in ages (10+ years) but pink powder (N.A.F. Pink Powder is what I'm thinking of) is a balancer in powder form, so why would you want to feed another vitamin / mineral supplement if you're feeding that?
 
Basically because even on the pink powder he's got this seedy toe and crack so wanted to see if an additional supplement might help.

I'm really going to show my ignorance here but is supplement seaweed actually sourced from the sea? I ask as I would have imagined it being seaweed farmed? It seems to feature in a huge number of supplements?
 
I don't know if this is true but logic tells me that seaweed probably only grows in the sea hence its name? So the seaweed farm would have to be in the sea? I've never heard of a seaweed farm though so I really don't know.

It could maybe be included in lots of things due to being cheap to scavenge perhaps. I've never heard of anyone going to the beach and saying it was an awful day because there wasn't enough seaweed in the sea! :biggrin3:
 
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I have taken this from the Easy Care Blog
"My horse seems healthy and happy" you say. Here are some questions then:

Does your horse have thrush and/or white line issues that will not go away, even with great hoof care and topical thrush treatments?
Does your horse suffer from sensitive hooves, even though they look great from the outside and have good trims on them?
Does your horse have issues tolerating sugars (but does not test for insulin resistance) or is even insulin resistant?
Does your horse have scruffing/flakey skin and is itchy all the time, even when not sweating and with feeding flax and good grooming?
Does your horse eat a lot of dirt, eat tree bark, branches, bushes, other 'odd' plants, even though it has tons of food and isn't bored?
Does your dark colored horse bleach out every summer, does your horse have a 'dull' colored coat, have frizzy ended hair, etc?
Does your horse suffer from allergies or other immune issues?
Does it suffer from unexplained laminitis (or has sugar sensitivity related laminitis), blow abscesses for no reason, has thin soles, etc?
Does your horse have cracks in the outer hoof wall, cracks in the inner wall between the white line and sole, bad hoof quality in general?

All these things can be, and often are, related to a mineral imbalance. Most often this is from excess iron, as it causes a copper deficiency and other issues in the mineral balance. Balance the minerals back out, add extra copper (needed for good hoof an coat development for one) and extra zinc as it is a great immune booster and you and your horse need zinc for good health. Iron overload has been directly linked to insulin resistance in some studies. It is also a known cause of inflammatory and immune issues. Sure, you won't magically make a serious condition in your horse go away by balancing minerals. But it often clears up all those small, nagging things that drive horse owners nuts. That dull and itchy coat, the thrushy hooves, the sensitive feet.

Natalie Herman
 
Yeah I guess you're right - did say I was showing my ignorance lol. I just can't imagine holland and barret et al buying sea trawled seaweed for some reason but sure I'm just being thick *blush*
 
Thanks Nathalie :-) oddly I'd answer most of those questions with a no which brings me back to my initial thought regarding the quality of trim by a farrier who prefers shoes.... Horse is sound on all surfaces, skin fantastic and he is a good weight. Just this crack on foot and farrier says seedy toe :-/

This thread has been really enlightening thanks everyone!
 
Seaweed is farmed in the sea in the Far East .
It's a very big industry in China but also grown in Japan and Korea and other places , I would assume that most of the seaweed used in horse supplements is probably bought in bulk on a commodity market and is most likely to be the produce of many places .
 
Seaweed does contain a large number of minerals but in such minute amounts (except for iodine and iron) you would have to feed a huge quantity to make any difference, and then you would be massively overdosing on the iodine and iron.
I just supplement with copper, zinc and magOx from pro earth, along with linseed and salt, and feed a low sugar diet. Its cheap, and the horses feet are excellent, he's barefoot and sound on all terrain. :)
 
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I could like to think the companies are sourcing rose hips from the uk I hope so.
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I would say very unlikely given that anyone selling something commercially and buying in bulk is going to source from a global market. Are rosehips even grown commercially in the UK.

But that applies to so many ingredients of the feed and supplements for sale.
 
We give our oldies rosehips as they are anti-inflammatories, so help keep them ticking over. We buy human version from Healthspan. Also feed Fenugreek (kind to guts & helps maintain muscles), Devils Claw (also from Healthspan), brewers yeast & green-lipped mussels (from Healthspan) as a good source of amino acids & Equiflex. In addition to fast fibre & grass nuts. 26yr old tb come through this winter in best condition for 20 years! Still in work as well with brilliant feet. 15 years ago she used to loose loads of shoes, never does now, feet are brill.
 
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dalidaydream said:
I've just looked up Rosehips on here:-

http://www.cotsherb.co.uk/rosehips-whole-2805.html

and it says they come from Chile
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Indeed, I had a quick look at few suppliers and they were the only ones that say where they came from. I've bought from other places too (feedmark and progressive earth) and I'm sure I've seen China on a label and that old favourite 'product of more than one country'.

Are rosehips even grown commercially in the UK, I know our hedgerows are full of them but I've never seen them cultivated.
 
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