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My 3 year old tb has some issues with the farrier and for everybody's safety while we are working through these he is sedated for the actual showing process. He was sedated about 4 weeks ago and went under like text book and came round relatively quickly - within about 2.5 hrs he was up and over the stable door looking for his next meal and generally being a pest as usual :) We have had him shod again today ,same amount of sedalin at about 3.30pm and he is still drowsy (as of about 20 mins ago). Doesn't appear to be in any distress ,no sweating etc . He has laid down a couple of times but this isn't unusual for him in his box (is naturally a very lazy little wotsit). Have left him in stable with a thick bed and just his water bucket and I am going to pop up again in about an hour and see if he is anymore awake. I have spoken to the vet who didn't seem that concerned - said as long as he is standing,breathing not laboured and not too unsteady on his feet - he will be fine. Has anyone else had this type of reaction - the only thing I could put it down to is that he was worked yesterday and has been high tailing it round the field today with his pony mates so maybe more tired than last time.
 
oh forgot to say - he had 2 mls which the vet when I picked it up said would make him sleepy but aware of what is going on (so he could get used to the shoeing) and his body weight is 485kg at the last weigh in about 10 days ago.
 
That's odd, I've been giving my horse a bit of Sedalin at the moment to calm her down whilst she s on box rest (she's a bit of a box walker and its not doing her injury any good :p) but has come round fairly quickly. I wouldn't worry too much, but watch the water with a drowsy horse, I've heard stories about them going for a drink and falling into it and apparently horses have drowned that way? Not sure how much truth there is in it, but my vet said it once and I don't like to take the risk, then again he may not be that drowsy.
Hope he's ok again this morning!
 
My horse had Sedalin when he was bought up to me after I bought him.(They couldnt get him boxed,without the sedalin) .He was so drugged up.Eventually he came around.
 
maybe im stating the obvious sorry if i am.
is he really that bad to shoe that he requires sedating every six weeks ?
what does he do when he's being shod?
are you aware of the long term effects of this treatment.
after loosing a horse to a reaction to sedation i personally wouldn't do it unless absolutely necessary. she was sedated by a vet for the dentist and watching her collapse and fit until finally PTS is something i'd never want to see again.
 
He is very very quick and handy with his back feet - I would rather not sedate him but I am currently running out of local farriers willing to risk their heads. He will now allow me to pick all four feet up,pick out and tap round with a hammer which is massive progress as when he arrived about 3 months ago I would get a cow kick for my troubles if I even dared to venture near his feet. I want to try and wean him off the sedation slowly over a period of time - it is by no means a permanent measure . He has what we think might be hobble marks onhis front legs so we think it is quite a long standing issue - currently trying to track previous trainers so I can try and pinpoint a cause or a base for this issue. I think he is naturally quite an active horse and a bit of a fidget so we are working on this as well to see if it helps with the farrier issue .
 
The amount a horse has eaten and how active he has been will have some bearing on the sedalin effect.
Think about it in the same way as you drinking alcohol; if you have it on an empty stomach it effects you much more quickly. If your blood is pumping round your system quicker (because you have done something active) then it will take effect more quickly and possibly more thoroughly (ever tried going on a bouncy castle after a drink?!?!). It has also been a warm day, at least where I am, which will increase blood circulation and increase tiredness.
I wouldn't panic too much at this point. See how he is later and tomorrow. Most adverse reactions to sedation (as unfortunately witnessed by kickandshout) involve more violent symptoms rather than drowsiness. Has the yard been particularly quiet as well? It is amazing how some horses can come round from sedation when its feed time!
 
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