Sedolin - Help

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I have never used it before and after reading a few posts about it it is clear i no nothing about the drug.

I need to clip my 18hh ISH head he wont let me near his ears with the clippers so thought i would try some sedolin because a twitch doesn’t work.

He is sweating up a lot round his ears otherwise i wouldn’t bother.

How much should i give him?

If he doesn’t go sleepy should I give him more?

How long should I wait to see if it has worked?

Should I remove all food etc as soon as he has been given it or when he is sedated?
 
As above, for light sedation/taking the edge off Sedalin is fine however if I was clipping a large tricky horse I'd get it sedated by the vet.

One of my horses hates clippers on his face and tries to bite them and is fine with trimmers as they are a bit quieter- have you tried some trimmers?
On the otherhand my other horse hates clippers on his face and wouldn't even have the clippers on his face when he was sedated by a vet! so I don't bother doing his face as its not worth the hassle!
 
I would be able to clip most of his head and can do all his body while he eats a net so i think it is only to take the edge off when i do round his ears.

I use the clippers to trim his bridle path and he lets me do that without too much trouble.

I do have trimmers (Avalon cordless ones) so i might try them but i would still need the edge taking off him.
 
You ought not be able to get Sedalin from a vet anyway until he has actually seen your horse.

People seem to think its just a minor drug in the same way as they feel bute can be just handed out but you are dealing with a sedative with the potential if over or under dosed to do a lot of damage.

Speak to your vet, you cannot expect laypeople here to be able to prescribe thedose of a drug!
 
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You ought not be able to get Sedalin from a vet anyway until he has actually seen your horse.

People seem to think its just a minor drug in the same way as they feel bute can be just handed out but you are dealing with a sedative with the potential if over or under dosed to do a lot of damage.

Speak to your vet, you cannot expect laypeople here to be able to prescribe thedose of a drug!

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Forgive me for asking for advice i thought that was what this forum was for.

Of course i will speak to my vet and he has been treating my horse for 6 years and therefore knows him well.

Different people have different experiences and i just wanted to ask their opinions..

I feel you were a little harsh.
 
Yes, a bit harsh! My experience with sedalin is that its not very effective with my horse but ACP tablets work well. I think its a matter of trying it. The key thing, IME is to give at least 40 minutes beforehand when your horse is calm. If he is stressed already, it almost makes it worse. There is a big safety margin, as I understand, and the effect of giving more is to sedate for LONGER, not deeper. Good luck!!!
 
Sedalin (aka ACP in gel format) is quite difficult to over dose. Follow the instructions on the packet as to how much to dose and wait about half an hour. Increasing the dose will not increase the depth of sedation, it will simply increase the time for which your horse remains sedated. There is a massive variation in response to the drug between individual animals. The best thing try it and see how your horse gets on with it. However, many people find that the sedation is too light to be much use for anything that the horse really objects to.
 
also - yes it is best to remove all food until effects of sedation have worn off, mainly because the horse would have an increased risk of choke.
 
Please be very careful wiht Sedalin. It is not a real sedation and the horse can suddenly panic and jump around. It takes an hour or more to be most effective. Also watch your horse;s temperature - they can drop blood pressure and get very cold (as with normal sedation)

Used it, and won't use it again, OK for taking the edge off but a short term solution at best - better to address the problem and train the horse or take the shortcut and do a propert vet sedation (althoug that is not always straightforward)
 
actually most vets sedation makes them sweat so when clipping not the best thing anyway - i know from mine being sedated a couple of times for xrays, scans etc. it also makes blood flow a little quicker so have to beaware of if they cut themself or you catch a wrinkly bit under leg and cut them - it will bleed alot.
i use clippers for anywhere except ears - i have to use trimmers and to be honest could not go through the hassle this time of head flinging everywhere and me getting frustrated and bashed about so did half head. - much easier!!!!!!
 
One other thing to remember is to give it on a completely empty stomach.... like two hours after the last mouthful has gone down..... and give it an hour to work!!

Echo what others have said about not giving more for deeper sedation... just lasts longer...

And the one bad thing about this type of sedation is that it can work against you by removing the horses inhibitions.... ie... Merlin who would normally not dream of kicking out... nearly took Piebaldsparkles head off when she clipped him recently!!!
 
Thank you all so much for you good advice. I have spoken to my vet who said to give him 3ml and then leave him for 1 hour, she also said it will either work or it wont.

So wish me luck tomorrow, a friend is doing him because she has clipped lots of heads before and we are using trimmers and starting with a half head.

Thanks again.
 
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