Selling a horse v free to good home

Patches what a horrible story.....I didn't thikn of freezemarking him - I thikn I'll get both boys done - anyone know what it costs?
 
Just looked it up - god at £47 each it's a bargain - going to call today and get it arranged. Not sure if they'll do Oscar yet though until he's back to fitness.
 
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Patches what a horrible story.....I didn't thikn of freezemarking him - I thikn I'll get both boys done - anyone know what it costs?

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It cost me £50 for Patches but there were extra charges to include her on the register for five years I think.

Bailey was microchipped but no one checked for a chip when he was passported at the sales ring. This would've shown up the discrepancies in the story,had it been checked, of those presenting him for sale.

Freezemarking will put people off trying to selling him on and will make him easier to locate in the future if the unthinkable were to happen. You can also write to your PIO and tell them you have put the horse out on loan. They will record that information and if the passport is ever surrendered at the point of sale, they will contact you to make sure you have authorised the sale.

I am still shocked, over Bailey's story, almost 4 years on. I was naive and have to live with that mistake...but he was sold through a market the very next day after I sold him. I still find that terribly upsetting. I thought he was on his "jollies" being a companion.
 
Not only freezemark him, but have a loss of use mark on him which will hopefully put people off who have any intention of selling him on.

Really hope you find someone for him - what you need is someone like my OH who likes gentle hacks but is not that bothered about riding but more enjoys looking after the horse.

Unfortunately he only really likes heavies and we have one in residence hopefully for a few more years so can't help you out at the moment.
 
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The only wasy you will 100% know that he is always well cared for for the rest of his life is if he stays with you, can you not get some sharer, ask them to pay say £10 per week and you can keep an eye on him? No matter what you will always have a doubt in your mind if he goes on loan, references can be faked etc, contracts mean nothing. Surely you must be able to get a nice quiet sharer thats wants to pootle about on?

I really feel for you as I couldnt afford to keep two horses - but you do have a duty of care to look after him which you are obviously trying to do xx
 
brow brow - in Surrey it costs about £400 a month for each horse on DIY (grass livery is few and far between) and it's not fair for a horse not to be ridden and get stiffer and stiffer. In my mind that's just selfish and not in the best interests of the horse!
 
I was not saying you were making a bad choice at all, PR! (Hence my many "not directed at you" comments.
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) I completely understand you situation. My old horse is 3500 mile away!

If a horse is ridable and has is good at his job I think making him available to someone else who wants to learn or do a little less is a great option. Your horse gets exercise, attention and lives in the manner to which he has become accustomed. Someone else gets a nice horse for reduced money but with full disclosure of its history and condition. At its best it's great for all concerned.

And you seem to have a very realistic grasp of the situation.

It was more towards the general point that so many people seem to think even though they cannot guarantee a permanent home it's perfectly reasonable to ask that of anyone else. Doesn't make sense and if I were buying a horse doing business with someone that expected that sort of control without having any responsibility would make be very nervous.
 
Keeping him is clearly not an option. You're not under any extra obligation to fulfil your duty of care to him than any other horse owner that is considering selling or putting their horse out on loan. We all have responsibilities and I'd like to think the majority of us would seek to find a solution which suits all parties...including the horse.

There are plenty of successful loans up and down the country. You've just had a bad experience which has made you wary of trying again.

I think the immediate reaction to your initial thread made it come across, to some people, that you were prepared to give him away for free to the first person who was interested. It's clearly not the case, now that you have elaborated.

Good luck in finding a suitable home.
 
It may cost 400 a month but I was suggesting that you get someone to contribute something i.e a tenner or so - he is blind and has a lot of problems - and obviously doesnt seem like he will be an easy one to sort. If hes that bad - would you consider having him PTS ? I think there are peopl out there who will take him on but you will be waiting a long time lol

And surely you can get DIY less than that ? Or maybe send him to a retirement home - some will still lunge him every day ? or mayve send hime to ILPH - who will get him a fab home which is all regulated and just give them a hefty donation - to take him ?
 
Sending him to a retirement home - is that not just chucking him in a field? Sorry, but that's no better than palming him off on someone!

He isn't a difficult horse - he just needs a few weeks to settle in his new home - even if that means chucking him in a field for 2 weeks.
 
Hi PR I really feel for your situation with Ty it must be very hard. Just a thought for you my pony is on grass livery in Epsom (I don't think that's too far from you) so if your desperate I have lots of phone numbers for small grass livery yards round here for less than £100 a month. Hope you get something sorted x
 
No it isnt - if you read my post some do lunge and have horse walkers and some still ride them and at least you will know where he is.

one retirement place near me is £55 per week on a 24/7 grass turnout in the summer and stabled overnight in winter, with three hacks per week - all inclusive of worming too.
 
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It may cost 400 a month but I was suggesting that you get someone to contribute something i.e a tenner or so - he is blind and has a lot of problems - and obviously doesnt seem like he will be an easy one to sort. If hes that bad - would you consider having him PTS ? I think there are peopl out there who will take him on but you will be waiting a long time lol

And surely you can get DIY less than that ? Or maybe send him to a retirement home - some will still lunge him every day ? or mayve send hime to ILPH - who will get him a fab home which is all regulated and just give them a hefty donation - to take him ?

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BrowBrow - sorry I have to disagree with you.

If I wasn't going to uni PR's horse would be exactly the sort I would look for as my second horse - I do mainly hacking and light RC, and I know there are loads of riders like that! I can't believe you'd have a horse like this PTS (no I'm not a bunny hugger and I think some horses would be better off dead than passed pillar to post.)

I couldn't think of anything worse for a horse with spavins/potential leg problems (or any horse for that matter) than being lunged every day.

I also wouldn't put any horse in a charity - they are already over loaded without having perfectly useful and loved horses dumped on them.

Sorry!
 
no but these are my suggestions not what I would do - because believe me if I was in this position I would not be doing either - I would be keeping both horses and getting on with it, but this isnt an option for OP so therefore im just stating suggestions - nothing to disagree with there, but there isnt obviously loads of people out there to take him on as he would have gone by now wouldnt he ? and OP would not be seaking advice of a public forum?
 
PR having been in your situation myself I know how difficult it is.
You obviously care about Ty, so I'm sure you'll get something organised soon.
My mare went lame about 7 yrs ago and had to be turned away for 12 mts. I had an absolute nightmare of a time trying to find somewhere for her to graze over the winter, as grass livery is very hard to find in my part of the country. Luckily I did get somewhere in the end but Honey was sadly pts before she ever got to use it.
I had another horse at the time and I appreciate how hard it is to deal with two timewise and financially.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you both!!
 
Hi, sorry to butt in on this one I usually just watch from affar.
I have a permenant loan horse, I speak to his owner at the end on every month with an update on his health and everything is going well. The horse my friend has on loan is 22 lame and semi retired, we have shared him for 2 years in that time his owner has not once been in touch, he came from our farrier as he was no longer sound enough for his son.
My point being not all loan homes are bad ones, ours are cared for and loved as if we had bought them ourselves. The contrast in the owners is very different indeed but neither owner could afford to keep their horses, hence they are loaned out.
ParkRanger, if you were closer to me there would be a place for your boy with my friends daughter. There are lots of caring people out there who just want to hack quietly and enjoy the companionship of a horse it's just a case of finding them. Sorry if I am waffling a bit, but I get quite offended when loaners all get tarred with the same brush.
 
Well I do have to agree with you there because I have never known a loan go badly myself - but its clear that poor OP has had bad experiences in the past and is ritgh to be wary - she obviously love this horse very much and just wants to do right by him, which is proving hard. I dont think anyone is slating loaners but just showing how bad they can be and Op just wants to 100% knwo he is safe and well cared for.
 
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The trouble with advertising a horse as 'free to a good home' is that it attracts the attention of dodgy folk who like the idea of a quick profit. .

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Exactly what happened to me in 2003. If I ever meet the girl who did this to me again I'll punch her outright. I asked that they give him back if it didn't work out, offered to go and help if there were problems and even offered the nominal sum back (£100) when I discovered that there was a problem through a nasty email from the father, after I'd got back from hols 3 weeks later. Turned out that they had sold him on within a week (I was still at home at that point, so no excuse) to a dealer and were trying their luck at getting their money back in addition. They even banded my name around the internet as an evil dealer, saying that I'd 'not wanted to know'.

I would only ever gift a horse to someone I knew, now. There are too many evil horse people about.
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Whatever you do get the horse freezemarked and microchipped before you let it out of your sight so that it can always be identified in the future. Also take photos of it from all four sides and underneath.
 
OP - I am doing something very similar. I am emigrating on the 4th August to the States, and not sure when I will return. So....my mare had hock spavins (had surgery - now sound) and IMO is now unsellable, as you wouldn't be able to insure her.

I have found a loaner for her, who although is not the world's best rider, will ride her 3 times a week and keep her joints moving. She is out 24hr a day 365 days a year, and that is something that I would expect would be good for Ty if you did find a loaner?

I also am getting the mare freezemarked before I depart, so if anything untoward should happen, I may have some luck in finding her. Also worth letting the insurance company know that its going out on loan.

My concern though is that mine is not a permanent loan - she has to give me a month's notice....so may get into a bit of a pickle. Eventually, I would like to ship her to the States, or I will come back, but its just so irritating that I can't sell her! Because, same situation as you, you don't know what people are going to do if something flares up with the arthritis.

Good luck, and hope you find a secure, and permanent loving home.
 
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