Selling a horse with sarcoides? - OR

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I am injured and so can't ride my horse, I made the heartbreaking decision to sell her as its just not fair to leave her sat in the field. So, had some people to view her, they liked her, took her for a weeks trail, had her veted and the vet found 4 sarcoides (all the flat type ones) I have pervously thought that 3 of these were rubs from her rugs (one on her chest and 2 sort of where the legs straps of a rug go, so in between her legs, all the size of a 10p coin) and the 4th one i thought was a scar, its sort of in between her front legs, near her armpit.

We said to the people that we would knock money off so that they can get them treated but they have said they dont want her which is fair enough.

My horse is coming home tomorrow but what do i do now? I cant ride her so shes just going to be parked in the field (iv just paid for 8 weeks schooling too), i dont know of anyone who can ride her for me either, and apperently to treat the sarcoides with Liverpool cream i will have to wait untill the auten.

I doubt if i advetise her cheaply stating that the low price reflects the sarcoides id get any interest, and i dont think she would sell at the sales either (unless it was for meat as she is full TB). I have concidered handing her over to a equine charity but there must be something else i can do? I dont really want to burden a charity with the expensis of having the treatment but i dont want to keep her sitting in the field untill i can treat them myself. She is a horse that thrives of work and sitting in the field dos not appeal to her much.

So any ideas what i can do? The sarcoides dont effects her at the mo but obversly they may do in the futher. I just feel so gutted about everything with my injury and not being able to ride, i just want to find a nice home for my horse now :(
 
Some people have a real thing about sarcoids, some don't. I also don't think that flat sarcoids can be treated with LC, but may be wrong.

Why would you try and hand it over to a charity - it's not a charity case??

Just get her advertised again, and try and find someone to exercise her a couple of times a week.
 
My boy is a talented youngster but in December last year suddenly got a sarcoid on his eyelid.

He has had 2 operations and just started the BCG injection, hopefully this will work

It has meant he hasnt competed much this year and his value has dropped huge amounts.
Although i am never selling him people still offer to buy him!

All i can say is try the equine charities.
Your horse will get the right treatment and be cared for without you having to worry about her.
 
The vet who found the sarcoides recomended the LC for them. BUT i havn't spoken to this vet or actually seen any report that confirms that they are sarcoides, although from the reasearch iv done now i do believe they are sarcoides now.

Due to my neck injury i cant work at the mo, which means i am struggling to find the money for her now. I believe if you for cant afford to look after a horse and pay for all of its needs - you shouldn't have one. My insurence will pay for the 1st treatment of her sarcoides so i know i can deal with that but long term i cant now afford to keep her.

Shes been advertised for a month now and iv had 5 people interested in her. Dont think full TBs sell very well anyway..... There is no one in my area who will ride her for me, iv tried many times to find someone and also to loan her out but no one wants the responsibilty of someone else horse.
 
Flat (occult) sarcoids can be treated very successfully with LC.

I would advertise her cheaply with the sarcoids. I'm sure someone will be happy to take her on, as suggested before, some people don't mind them, some people do.
 
Advertise her state that she has them hence a reduction in price, some people wont buy a horse with sarcroids I think thats due to the fact they can come back, though not sure with flat ones. But I know people who will buy and dont see them as a major issue :) You have nothing to lose if you dont get any intrset for her but hopefully you will find a good home for her :D
 
I belive the occult sarcoids tend to respond v well to liverpool cream. My mare has several and I have madly read up on them! We are currently waiting for the cream. Ideally we would wait until autumn so that the flys are less of an issue, but one of them has recently flared up and she keeps rubbing it so it is a bit of a pain (wish you could get horse head cones like you can for dogs!!). If you can afford to keep her a bit longer then I would get pics off to liverpool through your vets. Liverpool will check the pics to make sure they are sarcoids, then they will work out a treatment plan. If you agree to that (free so far I believe) then you buy the cream and the vet comes out to apply it. At least while you are trying to sell you could start this process then who ever comes to see her will have the vets results on what they are and what treatment will be needed. Then, if she takes a little while to sell, you can get on with the treatment asap as there is no doubt she would be more easily sold without them. Liverpool are being super slow atm anyway so you might find you are heading for autumn anyway by the time you get your cream!! Some people are less bothered by them, so they shouldn't stop her being sold, but they are bound to put some people off too. Could you put her on loan to someone in the mean time? Although charities are an option, because alot of people are having to deal with money problems / redundancys I think they might struggle to take more on. Always worth giving them a ring though as I'm sure they will be able to offer helpful advice as sadly alot of people seem to be in this position currently.
Lots of luck with this.
 
My girl is a grey and at 10 when I bought her had 3 sarcoids - the 2 of the raised bobbly ones and the flat ones + a melanoma to boot. On vetting the vet did say he would be more worried about the sarcoids than the melanoma however they have only ever caused us very minor problems in 7 years and never from the flat one on her chest!

People can be funny about all sorts of things but to my mind if I wanted a safe fun horse that would far out rate a couple of bald patches !

Be honest in your advert it's likely anyone who has had experiance of sarcoids would not be that put of by it - fear of the unknown with some folk.

I think you are right about TB's they don't fetch much these days but get her back advertised - just say low price due to small occult sarcoid. It's unlikely any charity would take her at the moment.

Good luck
 
Thanks for your replys everyone, i feel a bit better knowing that there is hope for a nice home for her. I will get an add done asap then and when she arrives home tomorrow a will sort out about getting my vet to look at her aswell. I just want to do right by my horse.
 
Cant you ask the vet to give you some BLOOD ROOT CREAM? Thats what im using on my boys Sarcoid.He STILL has the original one and then did have a tiny one,which has now gone!!
Cant you put her out on loan?
 
I will be speaking to my vet when my horse is home again to see what they say about them, im scared to fiddle with them and make them worse :S

I dont own my own land and the difficulty with loaning is that they end up coming back unexpected. That said - I am willing to loan to the right home, but to be honest i can't find anyone to loan her in the first place. I am very happy to let a potential buyer have her on trial for a while too.
 
Aww, sounds like you're having a tough time at the moment :( Keep her advertised, people do buy horses with sarcoids. My last boy had them and i was in a similar situation to you, he was too wide for me to ride (16.3hh chunky ID) because of back & hip problems so it wasn't fair to keep him as a pet. I did have to advertise him quite cheaply & would have been worth a fair bit more without them but he went to a lovely home with people who already had another horse with sarcoids so understood his needs. Keep your chin up and keep trying :) Someone will want her. Oh, and you were very right not wanting to fiddle with them yourself- leave well alone & stick to vets advice or you could make them a whole lot worse.
 
lialls said:
I will be speaking to my vet when my horse is home again to see what they say about them, im scared to fiddle with them and make them worse :S

I dont own my own land and the difficulty with loaning is that they end up coming back unexpected. That said - I am willing to loan to the right home, but to be honest i can't find anyone to loan her in the first place. I am very happy to let a potential buyer have her on trial for a while too.
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My horse has a Sarcoid and the vet gave me the Blood Root Cream and its very good stuff.
 
I guess it must differ between vets then. My vet said to wait for liverpool cream, but to leave the sarcoid totally alone in the mean time - absolutly nothing on it while waiting. My understanding is that the first treatment you use on the sarcoid has the greatest chance of sucess. If it doesn't shift it, or if it returns, the chances of treating it sucessfully are reduced. I think this is why other treatments aren't recommended. Treat it once and hit it hard seems to be the generally established way.
 
if you don't want her and are prepared to give her to a charity, then you should offer her for free, to the people that had her on trial. At least they were interested enough in her to take her for a weeks trial.
 
I am sorry to hear about your injury and sad sale of your horse.

When advertising, whilst advertising all her good points, put the fact she has sarcoids in too. Obviously the price needs to reflect her true worth. As a buyer, if I saw an advert which was honest and open I would not worry too much, afterall, you are selling through injury and not because your horse is crocked.

There is a home somewhere for your horse and lets hope the one you choose will be loving and long term. Perhaps a loan WVTB is an option. That way some people will think you are not trying to offload a problem and will be able to experience for themselves the management of sarcoids before actually committing to buy and hopefully realise they are not a big problem.
 
There will be a good home at the right price... We just sold our pony that had quite bad lami last winter (fine now, but with rings growing out on feet). Some were put off, others weren't - she went to a great home..

Re sarcoids, my husband's horse has small warts/ sarcoids, and a lovely vet at our practice said before spending a fortune try mixing pure tea tree oil with lemon balm (powdery form) half and half into a paste. (Both found at Health food shops..) Then smearing it over the sarcoids. Three out of five just got smaller and smaller until they went... Perhaps worth a try until the end of summer??
 
im sure you will find a good home for her. I dont think you need to consider giving her to a charity, you can find her a good long term loan home. I know several people looking for a horse on loan so i'm sure if you are honest and upfront you will find some one to look after her
 
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