Selling a horse with sn existing problem?

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Peglo said:
I’d also be wary of selling her too cheap because you’ll get a lot of day dreamers interested who may not have the experience to look after her properly and just want a cheap horse.

She is very pretty.
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But she's actually not really worth anything sadly, so how do you sell for an inflated price. You need a unicorn of a buyer to prevent her from becoming another bin end dealer statistic.
 
She's pretty so that will help but she needs an experienced home. Anyone with experience might take a punt under 1k as a few experienced people on here have said.
Sadly a horse with issues is not worth much and as AM already said her future isn't bright unless she has a really experienced person who won't pass her on if she doesn't come good.
That's the hard truth not bullying.
 
misst said:
She's pretty so that will help but she needs an experienced home. Anyone with experience might take a punt under 1k as a few experienced people on here have said.
Sadly a horse with issues is not worth much and as AM already said her future isn't bright unless she has a really experienced person who won't pass her on if she doesn't come good.
That's the hard truth not bullying.
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Thank you
 
I like the horse if the owner wants someone to buy and keep it not pass it on for a quick profit then it needs to go to someone who thinks it's worth the time and effort. 5 k rather than 500 has a much greater chànce of ensuring this.
 
Sanversera said:
I like the horse if the owner wants someone to buy and keep it not pass it on for a quick profit then it needs to go to someone who thinks it's worth the time and effort. 5 k rather than 500 has a much greater chànce of ensuring this.
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Hence my 'unicorn owner' comment.

But of course, and sadly, she's not worth anywhere near £5k.
 
Nuttyfilly said:
Thanks for the input but I’ll politely delete the thread probably the worst decision i made today asking for advice i feel terrible now and bullied thanks very much 😢
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I don’t think anyone bullied you , just asked questions as she’s not “perfect in every way “ if she’s nappy in school. However if sound and enjoys hacking then I’m sure you could find her a nice happy hacking home. I think if she was well schooled you could ask for more but I’d take some money off for sticky stifle and a bit more for not being schooled. I’d be weary of parting with her for cheap 1k and under as she’ll get a lot of attention and might not all be the kind of life you want for her.
 
I'll agree to disagree. If that mare was advertised at 5k I'd go and view it. I think she's lovely,young a little green and with lots of potential. A neighbour had a gelding with a sticky stifle. It didn't impede him he won lots of rosettes and lived to be 32
 
Sanversera said:
I'll agree to disagree. If that mare was advertised at 5k I'd go and view it. I think she's lovely,young a little green and with lots of potential. A neighbour had a gelding with a sticky stifle. It didn't impede him he won lots of rosettes and lived to be 32
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There you go OP.

You've sold her 😀
 
I would definitely not be risking 5k, with the best will in the world this is a young horse with more than one red flag if you read carefully what we are being told.

Yes she is pretty and initially looks a nice sort. But when the owner is questioned as she would be by any prospective purchaser the history and timeline become a little less clear.

That lack of clarity and OP's evasiveness and knee jerk bullying claims to any attempt to ascertain the soundness timeline will not make for a confident purchaser happy to part with any serious amount of money.

Now I 'm off this thread. I feel bullied and sad that I bothered to try and give a genuine response to the OP.🙄
 
I think the issue with a horse like this is there's so many what ifs -What if there's more going on than just a sticky stifle? What if she doesn't have the potential people want and will pay for? What if she doesn't stand up to harder work? What if her unknown breeding is hiding something like pssm? - and at the moment with winter drawing in and the cost of living crisis people do not want to pay lots for something with so many question marks when they could either get a youngster from a stud of known breeding with a solid hereditary foundation to build on, or for a few hundred quid or less an unhandled total blank slate. She's an awkward middle ground between the two which not many are looking for, though as AM said you do get unicorn buyers, and you only need one.


Incidentally I'm sorry if any of the previous messages come across as harsh at all as they weren't intended as such, they were merely people trying to clarify the situation in order to give the most pertinent advice.

All the best.
 
Sanversera said:
I'll agree to disagree. If that mare was advertised at 5k I'd go and view it. I think she's lovely,young a little green and with lots of potential. A neighbour had a gelding with a sticky stifle. It didn't impede him he won lots of rosettes and lived to be 32
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5k is quite a lot for such an unschooled horse but if I went to look at her then I would be spending a lot of time grilling the owner to establish the exact history re the stifle situation and even more time grilling the vet doing the 5 stage vetting. Unless she passed that with beyond flying colours the price would be coming down based on the medical situation and also, as a separate issue based on the schooling.

I'm sorry you think the forum is blunt Nuttyfilly but the questions people are asking are the. ones prospective purchasers are going to be asking presuming they are good purchasers with the experience to progress the mare and deal with the stifle situation and therefore at the end of the be able to give her the best long term home possible. If people don't ask questions to determine if they are fully au fait with the problems and can deal with them then they are likely to be the ones who take on a very sweet looking young mare and end up either ruining her or passing her on when they can't cope.

I think perhaps you should use the comments on here as a learning experience as to the comments you will get when you advertise her.
 
Nuttyfilly said:
I tried a little schooling but she starting napping so stopped immediately and shes literally been hacking and is fine but im finding it difficult to even keep up with this. She lives out 24/7 been checked by vet/physio/dentist/bit fitter/ saddle fitter all completely fine.

Ive put so much into her she deserves a nice home and that is my priority over monetary value for sure
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This would be a red flag to me. Especially when we don't know what form the napping takes. I've had a pony with a sticky stifle, and ridden another, and that in itself would not bother me. They were fine to school, in fact, gentle schooling helped the condition, so if it were just the saddle, I would get some gentle schooling in to ensure this isn't a more serious issue. A sticky stifle isn't painful in itself.
Nuttyfilly said:
Thanks for the input but I’ll politely delete the thread probably the worst decision i made today asking for advice i feel terrible now and bullied thanks very much 😢
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This isn't Facebook, you can't just delete the thread. That is why it's called a post, because once posted, you can't get it back (like the Royal Mail). I don't see any bullying, just experienced people (in the main) trying to help.
Mrs. Jingle said:
I would definitely not be risking 5k, with the best will in the world this is a young horse with more than one red flag if you read carefully what we are being told.

Yes she is pretty and initially looks a nice sort. But when the owner is questioned as she would be by any prospective purchaser the history and timeline become a little less clear.

That lack of clarity and OP's evasiveness and knee jerk bullying claims to any attempt to ascertain the soundness timeline will not make for a confident purchaser happy to part with any serious amount of money.

Now I 'm off this thread. I feel bullied and sad that I bothered to try and give a genuine response to the OP.🙄
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I agree with this. I believe I am one of the unicorn buyers. In Covid, I paid good money for one finishing 3 months box rest for lami, with ems and borderline cushings result, who was asthmatic and not good in traffic, and didn't load. He also had stiff hocks from the box rest and his passport said he was a rig.

HOWEVER the owner was genuine and honest. She answered all and any questions to the best of her ability, with no attitude. She genuinely wanted the best for the horse. Vet records were opened and I spoke with other liveries on the yard. The whole family came down to meet me!

She is a pretty horse, and someone will likely want to buy her. She has a better chance of someone genuine taking a chance if she is in some schooling work, now you have raised a red flag about it, especially on a public forum with photos. If she has been in regular work for 6 months, including hunt rides etc, then if she can't cope with sone general schooling then I'm afraid there is a bigger issue at play here.

FWIW, in her current state, if I trusted you on meeting and liked the mare, I'd probs pay £1,500 or up to 2.5 K as a punt if she also moves well and gives a good feel under saddle. If she were schooling away, nicely, with vet records open (presumably the stifle was X rayed to diagnose that there is no greater issue and it was clear?) then 4K, as long as there was no napping and clear X rays.
 
To add that unfortunately there can be a lot wrong with the stifle joint that won’t show up on x rays or scans. Images can appear normal, but when an arthroscopy is done the damge can be seen, and it can be extensive.

I’ve had just that discussion with my vets. I was advised not to rely on clean imaging for stifles.
 
Tiddlypom said:
To add that unfortunately there can be a lot wrong with the stifle joint that won’t show up on x rays or scans. Images can appear normal, but when an arthroscopy is done the damge can be seen, and it can be extensive.

I’ve had just that discussion with my vets. I was advised not to rely on clean imaging for stifles.
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Sorry to hijack the post but that's interesting Tidflypom for anyone buying a horse like myself, who was maybe going to rely on xrays (as much as they are open for interpretation).
 
I don’t see any evidence of bullying on this thread. People might give you answers you don’t want to hear, but that’s part of being on a forum. I’m guessing you have a price in mind and are surprised people are not suggesting anywhere near it?

A 4 year old with a sticky stifle who has been known to nap in the school is very much a lottery. I would probably advertise for 2 or 2.5k, but be willing to drop significantly for the right home. Shes a lovely looking mare and the right home will be out there, but it’s a case of weeding through the dodgy ones. Because of her stifle issues, she’s the type who, sadly, could end up being passed from pillar to post and end up at various bin end dealers yards. You need to be prepared that there’s a chance that will happen, no matter how good you are at vetting a home. I’ve seen it happen far too many times.

The person suggesting 5k is on a different planet, sorry.
 
You say you are more concerned with getting her a good home than you are with the money, so I'd pay someone to do some light schooling, take a video or two next time she's out hunting, then sell her for you. The extra skills she gains (and can be proved to have) will ensure she is safer from being passed around bottom end dealers and the money left over for you will be the same.
Also that would be easier for you. Selling horses is a brutal business. Anyone who has been around looking at horses for any length of time will be feeling mildly paranoid about the many mis-described ones they have already seen before they meet you. To a buyer, your story of where she came from and what she has done doesn't ring true the way you're wording it, so you would be bombarded with direct questions that make this forum look very fluffy and cozy. Hand all that to a professional.
 
JBM said:
So a green happy hacker who naps in the arena with a sticky stiffle who may or may not be able to do more
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I haven't read all of this but as someone who wants a happy hacker, I wouldn't touch anything that naps in the arena. It is too dark for a lot of the year to hack out after work so the horse has to be happy to work in the school. Even at weekends in winter, light can be chancy.

Good luck with selling or loaning!
 
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