Sending yearlings away for bringing on

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Further to post enquiring about Richard Maxwell, I decided I wanted to search for other people, similar to him who may be able to help if I can't use Richard for whatever reason. I am however, having a particularly stupid moment and for the life of me do not know what word(s) to enter to run a search on google.

Has anyone got any ideas and/or any links to recommended people? Close to my area is preferable, not anywhere too far away if possible!
 
Why do you have to send it away? Just educate it yourself - it really is not that difficult. Why pay someone else good money to do what can be done at home?
 
It's not a case of me not knowing what needs doing - I have another yearling who I have done all this groundwork with - unfortunately he (the other one) is proving difficult in that he is getting very bolshy and trying to do stuff with him can be difficult if he is rearing up and flicking his feet out at me. I need help in that respect, not in any other.

I would rather spend the money getting help with him so we get through this stage and progress as opposed to something happening that means we both lose confidence and either one of us being injured in the process.
 
Search natural horsemanship or intelligent horsemanship, I think that's what Richard Maxwell defines his work as. There are lots of people out there doing stuff similar to Monty Roberts and Richard Maxwell, I would look ask for references though lots of people will take your money and piss about doing nothing with the yearling.
 
New one. Love him to bits, and generally he is a big ol' softie but when he is difficult he is very difficult. B couldn't get bolshy if he tried!! He's too lazy :P

I would rather nip this in the bud with some help so we can progress to doing more stuff and he can learn things to keep him thinking. At the mo, I'm not sure how this can happen if we hit a wall anytime he doesn't want to do something or is separated from his friend (which is something else we're currently sorting out)
 
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Search natural horsemanship or intelligent horsemanship, I think that's what Richard Maxwell defines his work as. There are lots of people out there doing stuff similar to Monty Roberts and Richard Maxwell, I would look ask for references though lots of people will take your money and piss about doing nothing with the yearling.

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Brilliant thank you. Will always get references, seen friends get burnt by taking somone up on their services because they were cheaper and it turns out there was a good reason for it.
 
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Is it the new one or B that's getting bolshy?

ETA my first reaction was the same as AmyMay, that yearlings shouldn't really need sending away.
But if it's the new one he might just be trying to test the waters with you.

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He isn't testing the waters, he is ar*ing around. I wouldn't normally do anything like that, I prefer to do the groundwork myself as I have done with Bailey, but I genuinely feel as though I need a helping hand on this one and sending him away is an option I am considering. So many people get slated for not recognising when they need help and end up ruining horses. It is bemusing when you get people saying the opposite!!

All comments noted though
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From what you've said, I'm not sure he needs sending away, he sounds like he's trying to take the p, as a yearling will as they begin to assert themselves (I warned you against having two babies
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Having said that, he sounds like he needs a firm hand before he does get to be a handful, what worries me is what is going to happen when he comes back? Am not getting in to the NH debate but why do you specifically want that?
 
I don't specifically want NH, it's more that there is someone experienced who knows how to counter behaviour and not only teach him that he can't get away with it, but show me techniques in how to deal with it. I can't think of the words I want when doing a search for when you could send a yearling away.

Richard Maxwell was recommended to me as someone who takes on yearlings, hence my enquiries.

It's hard to describe, it's not even like he trying to assert himself. If I could deal with it on my own, as have done B, I would. But initially, I think I need someone else's help.
 
I'm not slating you, just trying to get a bigger picture. I'm not trying to give you contradictory information, I'm trying to establish whether a relatively new horse is trying to test you in the first few months, as new, especially young, horses usually do. Knowing you haven't had him that long made me think that he was taking the p.
If he's always been like this, then it sounds like he has not been taught manners to begin with, which is more difficult to handle (which is what I was trying to establish). In which case boot camp would be useful, followed up by firm handling by yourself when you get him back.
 
Richard Maxwell worked with me and my colt last year and I came away with many tools which are still being used now he is a yearling. I wanted to learn how to deal with the issues as the normal things were just not working and rather than let the problem get worse, I booked him to come out to me and he showed me what I could do with him, like moving his feet around, to get him respectful of my space and of me.

I have to say, he is now a lovely yearling to handle in every way imaginable, and I have had many complements on his behaviour.
 
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booked him to come out to me and he showed me what I could do with him,

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Sounds a good idea-
I;d rather have an Equine version of Super Nanny visit than send away to Boarding school for a yearling.
 
I think you'd be better to have someone come and work with him where he is then help you a bit if and when you need it, if possible.

I'm not sure about sending yearlings away for a couple of reasons: one, I don't think competition horse environments are the best for young horses and a great deal of observation has not changed my opinion.

Two, and most importantly, these sorts of things are situational. A young horse might very well behave differently in a different environment, especially at first, but not then "hold" the improvement when its returned to the original situation. It's not quite like the "skill building" training of older, riding horses, it's more to do with shaping the young horse's attitude and approach - "every day" stuff that needs to be worked on every day. It is quite possible, especially at that age, to get short term results that actually prove detrimental in the long run.

Also, having someone on tap, as it were, allows for refreshers and additional input. I've done a lot of this sort of work and often clients call me again to be on hand for things like the first hot shoeing, invasive vet work, trailer loading, the young horse's first show, backing - any experiences where they want to ensure the best start. Since I've worked with the horse already, we all know each other and have a basis for working together it's often a big advantage.

If you have to send him away then make sure you go often to work with him and the trainer you pick and receive full information on his stay to refer to later. Find out the policy on "home follow-ups" to make sure you can get extra help should you need it.
 
i sent one of my youngsters to michael peace for the same reason she was trying to box me with her front feet. she hasnt done it again! shes going back to him in the next few months to get backed and i am going to send my other youngster as well. feel free to ask me any Qs.
 
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