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I'm going to be helping a friend sell a young horse soon but not sure what her best options are for selling.
Horse: rising 4 year old heavy cob gelding approx 14.1hh and growing. (Sire 14hh I believe and Dam 14.2)Definitely a show quality traditional, good movement and conformation. Hermits breeding. Blanket spot buckskin. Currently unbacked but bitted and worn tack. Was shown in hand as a foal with Mum and did well. Generally quiet though can be tickly about his belly. Sire tested negative for PSSM. Registered with spotty pony society. Has had itchy mane/tail...was fly rugged in summer and was fine. Vet isn't convinced its sweet itch but will see how he goes as the weather warms up...either way it's mild.
She's decided to sell as she's not getting any younger and has decided she just wants to get on and ride. There is no-one here small enough to ride him regularly. There is someone that can can come out and back him here or would he be better going to sales livery?
What sort of (realistic) price would she expect to get for the above as he is?? and as a backed and ridden away youngster with great show potential??
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His size will limit his market and he won’t be suitable for high end showing, but I'm sure he will make up into a super type for someone. His value is definitely in a backed cob proving to be sensible and fun so worth investing a bit getting him to that point I expect
 
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Lovely pony but I would say that sweet itch would halve his value, so I’d want to get a proper diagnosis on that.

ETA but yes, sales livery definitely the best bet. As far as price goes, he’s young, unbacked, unproven and with possible sweet itch. Pretty colour though.
I would say 3-4k, 5-6 broken in if not sweet itch.

You will get people saying higher on this thread guaranteed, but the market has dropped off a cliff and these horses aren’t selling.
 
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You could also consider selling him unbacked. There are people out there (like me!) who like to back their own at 4 to make sure the job is done slowly and properly. If you send him away to be backed, the extra you make might be swallowed up by the livery and backing cost. It's also not a great time of year to send away - frozen, waterlooged schools etc. And it's a bit of a gamble unless you know someone who you absolutely trust to do an excellent job. If it were me, I would start long-reining and get him used to tack, then advertise as ready to start at £4k to £5k
 
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Show potential is limited for him so I'd not use that as a selling point.
Equally the itching...sounds more like a allergic reaction again not a great selling point
Cobs are generally easy to back I'd personally sell him backed with halt/turning/walk established.
If I wanted more money I'd of at least been leading him out off another horse.
Worth...if he's doing the above with no issues and is ready for some one to bring on I'd be thinking 3 to 4 k
 
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Atm 2K - the sweetitch is going to be a pain in the bum. Ridden and hacking quietly 3-6K depending on him but prob towards lower end and you might struggle to find the buyer with those funds with the itch
 
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He looks very cute and a lovely color. I think he could be worth quite a bit once backed if he is easy going and has good conformation. He'd make a very cute dressage pony, fun allrounder if shows are not his thing. I'd think at least 5k, perhaps more if he has gone to a few prelims and can jump a little course of jumps.
 
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I think it depends on your friend's priorities too - maximum price, or best home?
I bet someone would pay £5k for him, even just as he is - if he's an easy person they could have him backed and advertised for £6k+ within weeks
 
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Sales livery with someone who you really trust. Just getting him backed is not good enough to get reasonable money for him when he's for sale. His ground work needs to be nailed & also jumping a small course. Then you will be showing the pony at it's best & you can then add potential to the advert. Someone who comes to try him will want him to show them what he can do at the moment and will realise the potential he has. You need to do this because so many sellers mention potential in their advert & the horse they are selling is probabvly 8/10 years old. Any potential they have is in their mind because by that age all the potential has been used up & what you see is what you've got. Good Luck.
 
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Toby_Zaphod said:
Sales livery with someone who you really trust. Just getting him backed is not good enough to get reasonable money for him when he's for sale. His ground work needs to be nailed & also jumping a small course. Then you will be showing the pony at it's best & you can then add potential to the advert. Someone who comes to try him will want him to show them what he can do at the moment and will realise the potential he has. You need to do this because so many sellers mention potential in their advert & the horse they are selling is probabvly 8/10 years old. Any potential they have is in their mind because by that age all the potential has been used up & what you see is what you've got. Good Luck.
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That is not entirely true. I agree the older the horse the less potential to go on and be world beating.

I have a 13 year old I bought aged 11. He is learning to do some Trec (and won his last two competitions), Endurance rides, working equitation. He had competed to BD Novice when I bought him, now competing elementary, and aiming for medium next. I really dont think all potential is used up at 8/10 and horses cant develop and learn new skills and progress competing.
 
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Thanks for all replies. She's keeping hold of him for the time being as he needs a wolf tooth out, she wants to ascertain for sure about the itching and plans to get someone out to start doing dome longreining etc with him before she makes a firm decision to sell. The problem is that she's very attached to him so I think she wants to be very sure before selling. Plus he's only 4 this year and she doesn't want to push him or have him pushed into too much too soon.


The Connemara x Cob in the ad is actually alot more like one of mine, except that mine is 16.1 lol. Not really the same stamp as this lad to be honest.
 
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