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I'v had enough of my dog jut weeing everywhere. He's nearly 18months now and just pee's on everything.
He had a lovely bed which iv had to throw out because all of a sudden he decided its just to wee on. I bought hi a new plastic one which he just wee's on.
He goes out around 4-5 times a day and will do his business outside.
Iv tried everything from sprays, telling him off, ignoring him and just cleaning it up. You name it iv tried it!!
Crates are not an option, Tried it twice and he's sat in it barking none stop and ended up breaking them after a week.
I want to get his bits chopped but OH isn't to keen as he did hope to use him for stud.

I don't know what to do any more i feel like iv tried it all and would love some ideas on what to try net. I wouldn't get rid of him, that's not an option but i just don't know what to do now.

Any help is much appreciated
 
How did you introduce the crate? did you jsut put it up and put him in it?
What breed is he?
Is he cocking or squatting?
Do you have a smaller area you can partition off as opposed to a crate/i.e baby gate a room.
It can be done belive me, I have trained the filthiest of beasts, cos it I did not I would have been stuck with them.
Where does he stay in the house when you are out?
Where is he urinating mostly?
 
Has he had a urine or blood test at the vets to rule out a medical reason?

I would also have him neutered. There are enough 'studs' in the world, did you also say he was dog aggressive, you don't want to pass that trait on to pups, correct me if I am confusing you with someone else.

Also, you don't just shut a dog in a crate, that's not how they work.
 
How did you introduce the crate?

Does he pee when you are there or only when you are out?

Get him neutered there are far to many dogs already in this world and if he is dog agressive why would you even want to breed from him.
 
We introduced it when we first got him we put his bed in and his toys and he could go in and go when he pleased and we would close it while we were out. He barked permanently until he was big enough to just break it!
Hes a british bulldog
Hes cocking his leg but not just marking hes doing a full wee
I dont really have anywere he goes in the bathroom which is where hes going to start being locked when were out from now on. He usually has the full run of the house. He doesnt do it when were out though?
He has a chair (well its ours not ment for him) that he mostly wee's on that i ended up putting training mats under as everything i did he still wee'd on it
 
I agree about being too many dogs and to get him neutered i want to OH says he doesnt think we should but hes starting to come round to it now and hopefully im going to book him in to get done in the next few weeks (after pay day lol)
And yes he is dog aggressive also another reason i want to get him done
 
It does sound like a dominance thing, marking his territory out when you are present and in 'your' areas but I would still have a wee test to be on the safe side.

My fella has dog aggressive tendencies, I have trained a lot of it out of him, his two sisters and brothers are also sharp and it came through the bitch line, I have no doubt it would be passed on and what with his dodgy skin condition and his waterworks issues (boy, he was a lucky one...) I decided to have his nuts off - not worth the comeback if anything did go wrong with his puppies and better for the breed as a whole not to have itchy, infection prone ankle-biters running all over the place!

If my fella does get caught short in the house (usually through medication if he is on any) he will go to the bathroom or the doormat in the kitchen as it is the furthest point from where he lies, there is a cold, hard surface and there are mats there to pee on so that makes sense to me?
 
Maybe you could go back to basic's and be taking him out every 30 minutes and huge praise when he goes outside?

Does he still pee outside sometimes?
 
If you are absolutely certain he does not have a medical problem, the following might work but you need the patience of a saint.

Establish a small area that is very easy to clean. If the crate is not an option then the bathroom will do as long as the floor is tiles or similar and can be cleaned thoroughly with bleach. When you are not with him pop him in the bathroo, at all other times put a lead on him and clip the lead round your waist. Where you go, he goes, as soon as you see him cock his leg, straight out in the garden for toilet, then you can praise. He does not spend one second unsupervised, he is either in the bathroom or tied to you. This should stop all further accidents in any other area and get him out of the habit but be prepared to spend a few weeks like that.

Good luck!
 
Not much help but my Terrier started peeing everywhere when he was about 2, we had him snipped and it all stopped!

He was a cracking little dog back in his day and my parents had planned to use him for stud. Peeing all over the house got too much so his nuts came off in a last ditch attempt to stop it and it worked!!
 
With the crate, it's no good letting him go in and out when you are in then shutting the door when your leave, otherwsie his association is, that the door closes and you dissapear, I would go back to basics and use a good crate, and have him spend time in the crate when you are in the house, in the beginning, even with you in the same room, place a kong filled with goodies he would not usually get, his dry food mixed with tuna/sardines or some meat, squeeze some chicken breast in, or a bone from the butchers, only give him the items when he is placed in the crate and at no other time, when you release him, do so when he is quiet, make no fuss and remove the treats for the next time.
Repeat this, for aslong as you can, put the radio on and cover the majority of the crate, so he can not see your every move, then when you begin to leave the room, the radio drowns out your movement, the cover blocks where you have gone (in the beginning this would only be in and out of other rooms) and the bone or kong will keep him occupied, when you sart to leave him for longer, tire him physically with a good run or retrieving his ball till he is paggered (easy to do with bull dogs) this way you have covered all angles.

Otherwsie do the same with the bathroom and place a baby gate on the door, only thing is the bathroom will give more space to pass motions than a crate, giving him room to walk away from it.
Also everytime he is let out, no fuss, no talking, jsut guide him by his collar straight outside, never let him roam around the house alone, always keep him in your sight,so if he does go to do anyhing you can get him by the collar and lead him outside, eventually he should make his own way there, as he becomes familiar with the routine, block any access to upstairs also.

Where does he sleep? don't be affraid to say in your room either:rolleyes::D
And as suggested def balls off.
 
My sympathies! Have heard that male bulldogs can be very hard to house train,being rather over-male about marking.Off with `em ,it could be the answer.As for being a stud..well do you KNOW how bulldogs are mated??!!
 
Thanks everyone. Will start from know with everyones suggestions and keep you all updated.

He sleeps in our room and spends half the night in our bed on our heads which means we end up scrunched in a ball at the end as he kicks us and spreads out. Iv now start telling him off and putting him back on the floor!!
 
Lila said:
Thanks everyone. Will start from know with everyones suggestions and keep you all updated.

He sleeps in our room and spends half the night in our bed on our heads which means we end up scrunched in a ball at the end as he kicks us and spreads out. Iv now start telling him off and putting him back on the floor!!
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If he sleeps in your rrom, this would be an ideal situation to get him used to a crate, by putting one in your room, this way he is in a crate and getting used to the routine and YOU are present, which is a huge positive, cover it, so that when you eventually startleaving him in the crate down stairs, he wont notice to much difference, as East Kent suggests they are not the easiest of breeds to train.
 
well he is certainly the alpha male in your relationship! personally i dont think 4 to 5 times a day going out is enough for any dog. you need to deep clean your house to eliminate smells with an amonia free cleanerie not bleach! then restrict his movements in the house, so restrict him to the kitchen with access to an open back door into a garden area,. (if available). i would also feed him in any house areas he has urinated in. but back to basics, out first thing 6 to 7 am for peeing. followed by good walk 45 mins to 1 hour, then back in to restricted area. out for toilets every half hour unless sound asleep, on waking straight out for a wee. walk at lunch half hour, let out again every half to 3 quarter hour. long walk in eve 1 hour after his dinner. again let out for wee. Crate training does work but takes time to initate so it doesnt seem like a punishment. what other training do you do with him? is he responsive?
 
We dont have a garden/yard unfortunately. We live in an apartment so leaving a door open etc isnt possible. This is one of the reasons we got a bulldog.
We are in the process of looking for a house so finger crossed soon he will have a garden to go out in. 20min walks twice a day seem to do him anymore and we have to drag him :(
Will have another go at the crate. He actually broke the crate while door was open. For a bulldog (supposedly lazy, dont do much etc) he's crazy loves running round and playing.
I do agree they are very hard to train i know a few people who have on and they say they had a hard time but had the benefit of a garden.
 
I would really try upping the exercise, if he loves to run around and play, why does he need to be dragged for walks?
Where does he do his toilets now? If you think about it, you are giving him 40 mins in a day plus four or five goes outside, however long that may take, to do all his toileting?

FI my fella was out for an hour today (weather was minging) and he must have gone about four times during that space, pees, and two poohs.
I know all dogs are different but you need to identify his patterns and work around them.
 
I know his main pattens and i dont bring him in untill i think hes completely done.
When hes off his lead in open spaces he goes that crazy he throws up. He will also run at other dogs and he's not very friendly with him so walks are better on a lead. We have an area of grass (quite large) which he knows and theres no other dogs so i do take him on that with his toys twice a day and we do play till he's too tired and give's up. He lets me know when he's had enough and goes back to the edge of the grass.
 
Have you tried him on a harness and a long line once you get to the park. You can stop him grumbling at other dogs then and he will still get a run. Keeping him away from other dogs permanently isn't the best idea in the world, been there, done that, doesn't work, just heightens frustration.
Think about jogging a little with him too (not sure how bulldogs cope with that :p) or even a brisker pace.
(Wow, how off track have I gone...)
 
Yeh i was only talking about putting him on a lunge line or something similar to my OH yesterday ill definitely be trying that!! Not tried jogging but i may do me a few favours doing that too hehe.
He's not an over weight bulldog vet was very impressed when she seen him said would be nice to see more like him :D
How would you go about introducing him to other dogs then? I realy am just scared he will hurt something or get hurt himself
 
Well I wouldn't advise anything concrete over the internet as I don't know your dog or how he reacts but I would look out a good trainer experienced with grumpy dogs, depending on your location someone on here could help guide you in a certain direction.

It has to start in a controlled environment with safe dogs, with lots of distractions for your dog like high value treats or toys, and progress from there. You need to be very calm and not pass any tension down the lead to the dog and you do have to be prepared to be firm if positive rewards do not work.
Reward calm behaviour and ignore bad, and if the bad is actually him going ape, then be prepared to use first voice, then gesture, then a lead check to correct him. Timing is also key which is why you need an experienced person to help.

My dog is no way perfect - he hates other dogs running up into his face without warning, he is funny about certain colours and sizes of dogs - but I can now take him places and be reasonably sure he won't break my arms or disgrace himself, it can be done!
But the more he is kept away from other dogs, the more frustrated he will be when he does see them.
 
Oh, you have your work cut out then living in an apartment with no garden, that may have hindered the training, that and as suggested he is a bull dog:D
What CC said about getting him socialised and maybe erol in training class, get him used to being sorrounded by days and having to focus on you, the more you avoid or segregate him from dogs the worse he will become in his reaction to them, obs up the exercise but take care in the heat, these dogs like staffs and some mastiff breeds take immense reaction with repetitive exercise in the hear, given their dodgy air ways.
Up side is they are easier to tire than most breeds.
Have you talked OH into the knacker removal yet:rolleyes::D
If you can get a little further with socialising, a dog walker may also help to break up his day and get him out and about if you both work full time, I would let a dog like him join OH's dog walking team to get him socialised but some may not be confident and want him doggy proof first.
 
yes im going to try book him in today to get them removed. Im just going to do it OH is driving me mad is happy to play with him in the house and do the odd walk but the rest is up to me (cleaning up, walking etc) so im going to speak to vets today when i go up with my claim form for my already huge bill :(
Its more barking dogs he goes crazy at.
Iv just been outside with him and the silly woman from the next block has 2 jack russles (which i blame for his aggression as he was always good untill her's went for him!!) let her out. Mines usally always on his lead but outside on the grass he gets let off to play with his toys and tire him out :D She just let's hers run out and refuses to put them on a lead (OH had massive arguments with her. She just apoligises to me) He's very responsive to a squeaky toy so in true brucie style he stood up as tough he was going to run over and i squeaked his toy and told him no and he turned round and followed me so as you can imagin im very happy.

Oh works from around 7am and gets home between 6-8pm i dont leave fr work till around 3.40pm so im around most of the day with him (apart from going the farm) so he doesnt spend much time alone.
 
I thought id post a picture of the naughty dog in question
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I think the answer is to have him ' cut'.

My bulldog was unmanageable until he was done, not in a nasty way but he would jump on and scent anything and everything.

I also think you must get him socialised as a youngster as this is the easiest time. I missed the socialisation element with small children and I now don't leave him unattended with them. With dogs he is great unless anything attacks him and then he really stands up for himself. They are not a breed IMO for a first time dog owner and although they look charming can do damage in the wrong hands and for people that can't read the signals.

Also I think you have to seriously move to a place with a garden. Trying to rely on a Bulldog doing his business to order when you take him out is difficult. They are very much characters who mooch around and do things in Bulldog time and no-one elses.

He is dead cool and i'm sure once these things have been ironed out he will be a fabulous friend.
 
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