Session 17 warts & all.....

Purple18...I am sorry, but I think it is highly inappropriate to post someones full name on here without their permission.

I think it would be if someone wanted to remain very anonymous e.g - you - no idea who you are never seen a pic you have posted - you could be anyone - you seem to talk sense that is all I know. I knew James's full name from the endless posts and links to FB pages that he has made over the years - it's hardly a big secret is it?

Ever since I knew his name I have always imagined him as the geeky Norman Tuttle from the TV series Streethawk :o http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Regalbuto

Sorry James :)

P.s the sparkly Pinot Grigio has gone to my head slightly :)
 
Adorable Alice one of my fave posters - but what a hijack!! ;). I'm not on facebook (and won't be on the foreseeable future) so I'm not an 'Armas' follower. Jeez Louise, can someone explain to me why it was necessary to unearth older/advertising vids of Armas? To prove what point exactly? That he was green/rubbish (it has been said by FF) lame/not fit for his job/not a good representation for the stud? Wow ... sorry if I repeat myself, but unless I'm on the ground with that horse and not seeing him pretty much 24 hours I'll limit myself to what I know (no certs required ;)) ... Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion and I guess I'm one of them :D


it was me who first posted the link to the old videos. I actually stumbled across them while seeing if I could find a stud page to ogle pretty horses and just thought they were interesting in terms of comparison because he looked so different and we have rather been invited to watch this horses' training from day 1 :)
 
I think it would be if someone wanted to remain very anonymous e.g - you - no idea who you are never seen a pic you have posted - you could be anyone - you seem to talk sense that is all I know. I knew James's full name from the endless posts and links to FB pages that he has made over the years - it's hardly a big secret is it?

It doesn't matter, it is extremely bad forum etiquette to quote someone's full name. I am also pretty sure it is against the HHO forum t&c's as plenty people have been infracted/banned for doing it in the past.

:)
 
agreed! the only reason I even use 'James' is because otherwise it rather confuses whether we are talking about the man or the horse :D
 
It doesn't matter, it is extremely bad forum etiquette to quote someone's full name. I am also pretty sure it is against the HHO forum t&c's as plenty people have been infracted/banned for doing it in the past.

:)

Fair enough I wouldn't do it myself although I may have just made a ***** up - damn you fizzy Pinot Grigio :o
 
it was me who first posted the link to the old videos. I actually stumbled across them while seeing if I could find a stud page to ogle pretty horses and just thought they were interesting in terms of comparison because he looked so different and we have rather been invited to watch this horses' training from day 1 :)

I know it was you :mad: (the new smilies are rubbish!). I know they are different but he's a different horse entirely now too imo. I think Spring Feather likened him to a riding school horse (forgive if I'm wrong) and also someone quoted 'If you ask nothing from me, I won't offer in return' or something similar? I suspect from SF's (very modest) description about her horses being schooled for absolute beginners, they would be able to turn their hooves to anything if needs must. What am I saying .. I think I'm saying that (breed/training notwithstanding), I don't see a switched off horse, or an unhappy horse. I see a horse that is concentrating and struggling with that training, but I don't see a sour animal that others have seen - rightly or wrongly. Lameness? The only thing I thought that was funny was his duckwalk at the beginning of the last vid. If I was to stick my neck out I'd say it was his near stifle that was a problem.
 
Yes, I know you did and I know he edited it. You could have, however removed his name or asked his permission.

I know a lot of us on here are on those pages, but James had a choice of whether to allow us access to his name when he chose to add or accept us as friends. That is a choice you decided to take away from him.

I have just realised that in quoting you I have kept his name public so I will remove that and perhaps Amaranta would like to do the same. Would you be able to remove it from your post? You may not be able to edit now...don't know what the timeframe is for that, perhaps mods will have to do it if James wants it done...I don't know, I can't speak for him.

I had issue with you posting the comment Purple...just the name :)

Edited to say....I can't edit my quoted post now so will PM admin and see if they can do it. Damn my non technically minded and crap little brain:0

I didn't even think it would be a problem it didn't even cross my mind for a second James full name is very easily found by his helpful link. it wasn't until mentioned that I spotted his name there but I can get it removed to if that what James wants

I think it would be if someone wanted to remain very anonymous e.g - you - no idea who you are never seen a pic you have posted - you could be anyone - you seem to talk sense that is all I know. I knew James's full name from the endless posts and links to FB pages that he has made over the years - it's hardly a big secret is it?


Ever since I knew his name I have always imagined him as the geeky Norman Tuttle from the TV series Streethawk :o http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Regalbuto

Sorry James :)

P.s the sparkly Pinot Grigio has gone to my head slightly :)

kind of what I thought when I realised I included his full name
 
I think it would be if someone wanted to remain very anonymous e.g - you - no idea who you are never seen a pic you have posted - you could be anyone - you seem to talk sense that is all I know. I knew James's full name from the endless posts and links to FB pages that he has made over the years - it's hardly a big secret is it?

Ever since I knew his name I have always imagined him as the geeky Norman Tuttle from the TV series Streethawk :o http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Regalbuto

Sorry James :)

P.s the sparkly Pinot Grigio has gone to my head slightly :)

Hi, My name is Cheryl Bray and my youtube link is available as have posted videos on here before of me riding and cake decorating. My Justgiving page is in my name too.

I see no point in hiding behind anonymity if you want to ever help people. I think it is best to be completely transparent.

Still thing it is just pure good manners and respectful to allow people to choose when their names are displayed. Being available through clicking links is a bit different. Well, IMO it is anyway but hey ho.

I get what you're saying.

Oh...and I may be vaguely sensible on here most of the time but I can assure you I am a complete nutcase!!! :smile3:

I didn't even think it would be a problem it didn't even cross my mind for a second James full name is very easily found by his helpful link. it wasn't until mentioned that I spotted his name there but I can get it removed to if that what James wants



kind of what I thought when I realised I included his full name


I know...it wasn't until I mentioned it to you that I realised I had made it permanently visible by quoting you...DOH!!!!!

Stoopid me. Oh well, I let James know I couldn't edit so he can ask Admin if he wants it gone :)
 
I know it was you :mad: (the new smilies are rubbish!). I know they are different but he's a different horse entirely now too imo. I think Spring Feather likened him to a riding school horse (forgive if I'm wrong) and also someone quoted 'If you ask nothing from me, I won't offer in return' or something similar? I suspect from SF's (very modest) description about her horses being schooled for absolute beginners, they would be able to turn their hooves to anything if needs must. What am I saying .. I think I'm saying that (breed/training notwithstanding), I don't see a switched off horse, or an unhappy horse. I see a horse that is concentrating and struggling with that training, but I don't see a sour animal that others have seen - rightly or wrongly. Lameness? The only thing I thought that was funny was his duckwalk at the beginning of the last vid. If I was to stick my neck out I'd say it was his near stifle that was a problem.

I think it was actually Milliepops who said 'if you ask nothing from me...', and like you I agree with both of them. I also think that in the stud video he looked awkward, hollow and a million miles from straight, and as for not being btv, well it is very hard to be behind the vertical when his head and neck are so upright - when the current rider rides him in an upright frame he is not behind the vertical for her either. I certainly don't think Armas looked any 'happier' in the previous videos than he does now.
 
I see no point in hiding behind anonymity if you want to ever help people. I think it is best to be completely transparent.

I disagree. There are several posters on here whose advice was extremely useful to me when I first joined (and since) without me having a clue who they were in RL. Also, there are lots of very good and often sensible reasons why people choose to be anonymous and it's their right to do so.

I would be extremely upset if someone posted my real name here, even though quite a few know me from Facebook. having a particularly unusual name means Google would bring anyone searching for me straight here and there are good but private reasons why I don't want that to happen.
 
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Hi, My name is Cheryl Bray and my youtube link is available as have posted videos on here before of me riding and cake decorating. My Justgiving page is in my name too.

I see no point in hiding behind anonymity if you want to ever help people. I think it is best to be completely transparent.

Still thing it is just pure good manners and respectful to allow people to choose when their names are displayed. Being available through clicking links is a bit different. Well, IMO it is anyway but hey ho.

I get what you're saying.

Oh...and I may be vaguely sensible on here most of the time but I can assure you I am a complete nutcase!!! :smile3:




I know...it wasn't until I mentioned it to you that I realised I had made it permanently visible by quoting you...DOH!!!!!

Stoopid me. Oh well, I let James know I couldn't edit so he can ask Admin if he wants it gone :)

lol :)
 
I disagree. There are several posters on here whose advice was extremely useful to me when I first joined (and since) without me having a clue who they were in RL. Also, there are lots of very good and often sensible reasons why people choose to be anonymous and it's there right to do so.

I would be extremely upset if someone posted my real name here, even though quite a few know me from Facebook. having a particularly unusual name means Google would bring anyone searching for me straight here and there are good but private reasons why I don't want that to happen.

That's why I pulled Purple18 up on it....I don't like it.

I do get what you mean about anonymity. I used to feel the exact same way. It's why I don't have my real name as my username. I don't want to be easily traceable, but at the same time, I don't mind people knowing who I am.

I have no idea if that even makes sense!!!
 
That's why I pulled Purple18 up on it....I don't like it.

I do get what you mean about anonymity. I used to feel the exact same way. It's why I don't have my real name as my username. I don't want to be easily traceable, but at the same time, I don't mind people knowing who I am.

I have no idea if that even makes sense!!!

Not really - the Horse and Hound Forum ranks extremely highly on all the major search engines, so if someone googles your name this will be one of the first things they find on you. I know I wouldn't want my business contacts tracing me to hear, purely because horses are part of my home life and I do not want that in any way mixed up with my work life.
 
I just want to mention if anyone thinks I put James full name up on purpose I didn't I copied and pasted which sadly included his full name. which I didn't even realised had happened Until _GG_ pointed it out and when I check my post I saw it. I would have never of posted his full name if I have realised it was there
 
Not really - the Horse and Hound Forum ranks extremely highly on all the major search engines, so if someone googles your name this will be one of the first things they find on you. I know I wouldn't want my business contacts tracing me to hear, purely because horses are part of my home life and I do not want that in any way mixed up with my work life.

Yes, and there's the little matter of one's bosses googling to find one merrily posting here during work time! :redface3:
 
I know it was you :mad: (the new smilies are rubbish!). I know they are different but he's a different horse entirely now too imo. I think Spring Feather likened him to a riding school horse (forgive if I'm wrong) and also someone quoted 'If you ask nothing from me, I won't offer in return' or something similar? I suspect from SF's (very modest) description about her horses being schooled for absolute beginners, they would be able to turn their hooves to anything if needs must. What am I saying .. I think I'm saying that (breed/training notwithstanding), I don't see a switched off horse, or an unhappy horse. I see a horse that is concentrating and struggling with that training, but I don't see a sour animal that others have seen - rightly or wrongly. Lameness? The only thing I thought that was funny was his duckwalk at the beginning of the last vid. If I was to stick my neck out I'd say it was his near stifle that was a problem.
Hi there, yes you're right, the horses I produce for the local market are all AQHA horses, they're all well bred working cattle horses and yes they all are capable of ranch work but if I taught them all the cues to work cattle my buyers wouldn't be able to stay on them. Trained working quarter horses are incredibly sensitive off the leg and of course that would be totally counter to what novicey riders would want so I dull down this sensitivity and never ever teach them cues to have them spin on a dime ... although that could produce some kaleidoscopic results I'm sure for some people :biggrin3: As I say though I have had some who couldn't do the novice rider route so I keep them for myself as this type of horse works well for me :smile3:

I actually found the videos that Ester posted very telling to be honest. I hadn't seen those before and I have to say I was falling into almost a 'blame culture' with Armas' previous/present riders (I hate doing that!). What I found interesting in particular is that Armas looks uneven/unsound in the sales video and no I didn't care for the way he was being ridden in the early days, he really did look like a riding school horse to me.
 
I just want to mention if anyone thinks I put James full name up on purpose I didn't I copied and pasted which sadly included his full name. which I didn't even realised had happened Until _GG_ pointed it out and when I check my post I saw it. I would have never of posted his full name if I have realised it was there
I wouldn't worry about it. I know James' full name, so do loads of people on here. James posted it on here before and he's had links to his business on here so that's how I knew his name.
 
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