Sharing Question

[WishfulThinker]

Is a share just like a loan, or is it different in any way?

I ask as I mentioned to someone how I do not like my horse being ridden in a certain bit, and my sharer wanted to use this bit on him, and they said that if they pay to use him then they can do whatever they want with him on the days they have him.

Surely that is partly true in that they cannot do something I say they cant??

 

[pnap]

I always thought a "share" was like when you split all costs including buying and livery etc equally so you both had an equal say in what happens with the horse and a "loan" was when the horse was still owned by A N Other but all other costs were met by the loanee. Either way I'd be well miffed if someone wanted to treat my horse completely differently from the way I did it - confusing to the horse I'd reckon to have one person doing things one way and the next day the routine changes.

 

[lexiedhb]

I'd get rid of your sharer!!!!!

I share and wouldnt dream of changing Boris' bit without asking the owners......

If she could do what she liked then she could change bedding, feed etc without asking you.

 

[Accy]

I would say a share is much different from a loan to be honest, and the person sharing although paying towards in no way the same as a loan, if they want to change the bit then a discussion not a demand.

i am sorry to say but i dont think your sharers attitude is very good, if they was sharing one of mine and had that attitude then I would be thinking about if they werre the right person to be sharing one of my horses

 

[chestnut cob]

Nope - IMHO your sharer should do as you ask. What's the point in having a sharer to do more work with your horse for them to do the opposite of what you do, possibly undoing all your good work.

If it helps, my Welshy is out on full loan and I have a strict contract stating what they can and can't do. Made me feel better!

 

[maddielove]

When i shared a horse I had the same discussion...though it was not actually discussed. Basically it was down to the owner(who didnt actually see the horse reguarly) but I guess it would be helpful if you dicussed/gave reasons for your answer.
Do you have a contract? Maybe it would be worth drawing one up to oshow that you have the final say, because at the end of the day you paid for him and I guess your written as his owner and what not at the vets, insurance etc.

 

[WishfulThinker]

Oh its not the sharer saying that she should be able to use it, but it was a friend I asked. I had always thought that a share was very different to a loan as the person is in a way renting the horse from you, and therefore must abide by your rules.

But then I would feel that in a loan, if you set rules such as what cant be used and cant be fed then the loanee would be breaking the agreement if they did what you had asked them not to.

 

[trundle]

I think that sounds very cheeky indeed ! I may be the one riding the horse, but in my eyes, the owner is the one who knows the horse best, knows what tack she needs, what bit she goes best in, etc, etc.

I certainly don't think there is any harm in a sharer asking if they can try the horse in a different bit to help with brakes out hacking, or if they are competing /showing at an appropriate level, to check that its OK to put the horse in a double bridle, and a reasonable owner would understand why the request was being made. However, asking if you can try something is very different to telling the owner that you are going to do something (or worse, have already done it !). Saying you can do whatever you like with the horse on your days just because you are paying for those days suggests a rather unlovely attitude towards the horse and a certain lack of respect for the owner.

 

[Jellicle]

I agree with you Beau. Having said that, I am a sharer and I do use a different bit to his owner, though I wouldn't of course if she didn't want me to! It is partly because she mostly jumps him and I mostly school him.

 

[hadfos]

people generally find a sharer for their horses when e.g:they are lacking the time the horse needs for excercising(usually horses that need the work),this would in turn keep their horse fit for when they wish to do something with them,or money situations!!!The owner still owns the horse so therefore what they say goes!!Usually a sharer will just contribute towards there upkeep i.e:shoes feed,or in some cases the livery can be split between the two!I believe with sharing vet bills,insurance etc are the owners responsibility!!As for assuming they can do as they please with the horse on their days

they'd be getting the boot if it was me!!!