Shes getting Even BETTER [pelham]

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jumped today not a lesson :) teacher was busy but she was pretty good :) i think a bit annoyed as it was hot andd she jumped the day before [but that never happenss to she be ok for one day lol] but she jumped nothing big just getting used to the pelham before we go back to 120s lol
BUT now im getting an OUTLINEE with NO bungiee :D :D :D slowly shes tucking her nose further in and in :)

even moreee Proud mummy :D
YAY YAY YAY :D
just suffing from thee anxiety mega tired but she keeps me going :)

And My 3rd BSJA Saturdaay
good timess :D
 
Hmm the fact you measure it on how tucked the nose is isn't a great sign!

Please ensure you have a good instructor to help you
 
A pelham will put her in an outline due to the curb action...but that doesn't mean she is working correctly at all....an outline isn't about 'tucking her nose in' and that suggests to me that she isn't in a true outline ....:(

Sorry to sound a bit negative, but you keep posting on here and taking no ones advice and this latest post just sounds wrong on so many levels.

Seriously...as JessPickles says....get a bloomin good instructor or if you have one already, make sure your getting regular lessons.........
 
sorry but just because she has her head tucked in does not mean that she is working properly from behind, and in the long run it could do her more damage than good, all because you've put a strong bit in her mouth without the correct schooling
 
I have to agree, I'm sure the advice you were given (that you asked for) was NOT to use a stronger bit, it will only mask problems. That 'really strong bits' thread you started now seems remarkably apt.
If you want to win, hold off that 3rd BSJA and school in a snaffle (or something similar) and when you get there, it will all be worth it. Rome wasn't built in a day, and it turned out to be one hell of an empire
 
I feel sorry for your horse. Did you not listen to any advice that was given about not using a pelham? Your going to ruin her. From your videos you dont have the lightest of hands, combine that with a pelham and your horse will decide to stop jumping for you before you know it!

As everyone has said, a horse tucking its head in in a pelham isnt an outline. She probably isnt tracking up or working properly. Some people these days are far to concerned with their horses head being tucked in and forget all about what the back end is doing.
 
JoJo_ said:
I feel sorry for your horse. Did you not listen to any advice that was given about not using a pelham? Your going to ruin her. From your videos you dont have the lightest of hands, combine that with a pelham and your horse will decide to stop jumping for you before you know it!

As everyone has said, a horse tucking its head in in a pelham isnt an outline. She probably isnt tracking up or working properly. Some people these days are far to concerned with their horses head being tucked in and forget all about what the back end is doing.
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*Nods* Sorry, but it's very true.
 
thanks but the videos are old i havent had a new one in ages but seen there iv had dressage and jumping lessons with the pelham :) and we are doing great :D
my INSTUSTOR suggest the pelham not me :) and she obv has seen more than somee horsey people on the internet :)
 
Does your instructor give you EXERCISES to do with your horse to help you gain control? Exercises with and without poles and jumps?

Are you now planning on just riding her with a pelham? I'd really recommend (and any instructor worth their salt would agree) that you should do loads of flat work in a snaffle. NO TRAINING AIDS (and in a previous post you said that she went brilliantly in an "outline" on the flat, but this one you say it's with a bungee?). Learn to ride the horse naturally and find her buttons. These quick fixes are going to get you no where.
 
I don't want to sound mean at all, but please please PLEASE get that pelham OUT OF YOUR MARES MOUTH NOW!
I am currently trying desperately to repair the damage done to one of my horses by someone who wanted a "quick fix" like you. He went out on loan a year ago, as a 6yr old with masses of potential as an eventer. His only problem was that he was so excited by jumping that he rushed his fences. I did a serious amount of work to help him get over this - IN A SNAFFLE - and made it very clear to the people loaning him that he would needs lots of correct schooling IN A SNAFFLE to get him thinking more and rushing less.
They lied to me about what they were doing, and completely ignored me, and put him in a Waterford Nelson Gag so the daughter could go out competing straight away.
I went to see him last month and he came straight back. I am now left with a beautiful 7yr old who is terrified of jumping because the stupid girl socked him in the gob so much, evades the bit by throwing his head up, is impossible to tack up, rears, is dead to the hand out hacking, no topline whatsoever because she thought that a horse "tucking his nose in" was a horse working in an outline, and puts in the occasional serious tank. All because the girl wanted a quick fix and was too lazy to put in the work to get her to the top.

Zebedee is a 17.1hh ISH x Selle Francais, who did have a lovely soft mouth, elastic paces and a true love of jumping. He is now difficult, sometimes to the point of being almost dangerous because he is so frightened of the bit, is terrified of the one thing he used to love more than anything else, and has no real prospects for now until he can be re-schooled and started from square one again. IN A SNAFFLE.

PLEASE don't ruin your mare, she looks like a sweetheart - it isn't worth it. My poor Zeb is really suffering now because someone did exactly what you are doing to your beautiful girl.

99% of the time, it's the RIDER not the horse. I am lucky enough to have an ex Grade A showjumper and puissance horse, who competed all over Europe in his day. He went through a phase of refusing EVERYTHING, so I asked my instructor to jump him. It was, of course, MY FAULT - I wasn't riding him into fences properly, and he was telling me to sod off. If a horse who knows his job as well as him is affected so completely by the rider, your mare will be too. Get some more lessons, and get that godawful pelham out of her mouth - she DOESN'T NEED IT.
 
JessandCharlie said:
If you don't want our opinions, don't ask for them. And don't criticize them because we have only seen what you have posted.
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Well said....

all of the OP's recent posts are annoying the hell out of me and I bet I'm not alone on that one either...

I appreciate that you weren't exactly asking for advice in this post, but you just seem to be doing everything so wrong, ignoring everyone's previous advice which you did ask for and are potentially harming your horse....

I think you need to go right back to basics, forget BSJA for the moment as you just do not seem up to it (I'm not talking just in your and your horses ability, but in horse/riding knowledge which you clearly do not have enough of for that level) and try to do the best for your horse AND yourself first....
 
OP, I did ask you on another thread and I only ask because it will alter my replies to you does your mare have a spavin?
 
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