Shes getting Even BETTER [pelham]

*Gets comfortable and opens jelly tots*

I personally think a pelham is just what the mare needs, I think she has faar too many teeth at the moment. In fact, I'd be wearing spurs too so that she "comes forward from behind" better. And a big stick.

*Spills tea on keyboard*

Darn it... Anyone want some crisps? :)

Oh and Jeebus this is annoying me

I.N.S.R.U.C.T.O.R. Just like it is said.
 
Regardless of the riding issue, the OP is consistently being rude by not reading through her own posts before hitting the button.

It is bad manners to expect others to try and decipher spelling and grammar mistakes.

Most browsers will have spell checks etc, and it's simple courtesy to read through your post first.

Age is no excuse, in fact arguably you should be better at spelling and grammar as presumably you attend regular lessons at school?
 
Farrierlover said:
*Gets comfortable and opens jelly tots*

I personally think a pelham is just what the mare needs, I think she has faar too many teeth at the moment. In fact, I'd be wearing spurs too so that she "comes forward from behind" better. And a big stick.

*Spills tea on keyboard*

Darn it... Anyone want some crisps? :)

Oh and Jeebus this is annoying me

I.N.S.R.U.C.T.O.R. Just like it is said.
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Shouldn't Instructor have an extra t in it? xD
Or did I miss something..... ? :p
 
OP - step away form the real horse, go buy a hobby horse and drag that around the garden!! take it to XC, BSJA or where ever you like! oh and whilst you are out buy a dictionary!!!!!
 
BLEEDIN NORAH!!!(sp) is this still going!
oh my day! tis mad bruva! just my slang gangster kicking in ;)
 
Althought I recognise she hasn't given the best responses to many of your posts...

In defense of the OP, in response to one of her previous posts I sent her a PM (as I genuinely wanted to offer some kind advice and felt it would get lost in the thread among the nasty comments) with details of a schooling exercise, which I have successfully used in the past, to help with her mare rushing. She sent me a very polite response thanking me for the exercise and saying she would definitely try it. She may or may not have tried this exercise (which is entirely up to her) but she was polite enough to me and thanked me for my advice.

Perhaps a little more tolerance would help people get their points/advice across and make the forum a happier place for everyone where anyone should be able to ask for help and advice without being scared of backlash and user can share their experience and knowledge. There are users of all ages and levels of experience on this forum, and this young girl is only responding like many teenagers would (defensive).

OP- good luck with your mare. I hope you continue to use the forum, as it can be a valuable source of help and advice. You just have to accept that not everybody will agree you, thats life and it happens to everyone.
 
OP, why don't you just sell this mare and buy something that's been there and done it, and looks just as flashy. Probably cost you a bit more, but you'll be more likely to sell it on when you outgrow it and make your money back, rather than lose money on selling the one you've got when you've broken her or outgrown her, or she's no longer in fashion, or you get a boyfriend/start going out with your friends more in the evenings etc.

You also wouldn't have to be using two instructors to get the results you want (i'm being nice here, i'm sure a lot of people would still advise all the lessons you can get but if it saves your parents money...). That's my two pence worth anyway - i'm not going to comment on the bitting etc as you haven't liked any of those suggestions, mine's a bit different maybe it will appeal?!!?

Oh and BSJA girl and Caitlin95...haven't seen you two in the same room at the same time... if you know what I mean ;)
 
DipseyDeb said:
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As for age, if she is old enough to post in the open areas of an adult forum, then she's old enough for the backlash - provided its not swearing and name calling. Which incidently - she's the only one doing..
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Sure, she maybe old enough as this is an 'adult' forum, but 14 is NOT adult. Sorry to bust your bubble, but still people here are trying to reason with someone who lacks the maturity to cope with what is being said to her. At that age, it can VERY difficult to be able to accept even constructive criticism. Here's the crunch though, many people who have contributed have just been rude and arrogant in their attempt to 'pass on their worldy knowledge'....as I said earlier, if she can't take your advice, whether it be in shrieks and tears and you feel hard done by.....or blatantly ignores you, then just shrug your shoulders and be done with it. And no, I didn't give her advice, I first posted on this thread because I was wracked up in tears, howling at the responses that were being posted.....
 
shoo said:
OP - step away form the real horse, go buy a hobby horse and drag that around the garden!! take it to XC, BSJA or where ever you like! oh and whilst you are out buy a dictionary!!!!!
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Why don't you check your own grammar before you start dishing the dirt? I have spotted 5 mistakes in your post....

:D
 
Oh, for crying out loud, Dragonslayer; get off your pedestal already. This forum is full of people passionate about horses - and you expect them not to get wound up when they perceive a horse may be being mistreated? The OP has obviously long gone, so give it a rest, why don't you?
 
my carpet would like to complain about this thread. it was meant to have had a good hoovering whilst the small people were napping... but it's still sitting there... with more dog hair on it than the actual dog.

*makes mental note not to 'check' on HHO before starting the housework*
 
clipcloppop said:
my carpet would like to complain about this thread. it was meant to have had a good hoovering whilst the small people were napping... but it's still sitting there... with more dog hair on it than the actual dog.

*makes mental note not to 'check' on HHO before starting the housework*
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Lol!! You're so right...I don't even know why I said that ^ just now - this thread is crazy-making!! :eek:
 
clipcloppop said:
my carpet would like to complain about this thread. it was meant to have had a good hoovering whilst the small people were napping... but it's still sitting there... with more dog hair on it than the actual dog.

*makes mental note not to 'check' on HHO before starting the housework*
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Ha Ha I feel so much better knowing am not the only one :D
 
Hi OP, I had a similar problem with Finn. He rushed and rushed and rushed and if I took him out for a hack he would just bolt. (I was 12 when I got him)
So on instructors reccomendation, we put him in a pelham BUT she said I had to ride him in the school in a snaffle, even if it was a hanging cheek. We were lucky enough to have a school so I could ride him in a snaffle in a safe environment and put his pelham in for jumping and hacking.
6 months of blood sweat and tears we moved on to a gag on the 2nd ring. 1 year later we started SJ in a hanging cheek snaffle and dressage in a loose ring snaffle. 2 years later we did a ODE and used a full cheek snaffle for the whole thing. And finally 3.5 years after getting him he is being ridden by a 10yo.

Altough it doesnt seem like it, there is a light at the end of the tunnel...although I cant see the huge problem with schooling in a pelham AS LONG AS your hands are soft and the horse is working in a proper outline stepping under with hindlegs etc. When I got Finn I wasnt experienced enough to use a pelham in the school and not just have him tucking his head under so I had to do it the hard way :p

Keep the lessons up though, you never stop learning with horses...and listen to the people on here (not necessarily me :p) they helped me soooo much with Finny!!

BTW I havent actually watched the video yet...maybe I should have done that before posting :p
 
BSJAShowjumper123 said:
ahh she does i dont :| i never jump that muchhh :O
only once or twice but the vet said i could but other than that i woudltt x
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Munchkin said:
I don't think she's a troll; if you scroll down through her vids there's a vlog of hers in which she appears about as mature as she does on here (although fortunately she can speak marginally better than she can spell).

Just a silly, immature little attention seeker with a lovely pony that she's going to cripple, ruin or both. Much as it pains me to say this - leave her to it. Our advice is having the opposite to desired effect.
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I second the silly immature little attention seeker bit. Clueless, I mean some posts do not even make sense. I pity the poor equine she is riding, and any she rides in future. Fuming, but then if she's a troll, so blooming pointless!
 
Having just had a defensive PM from the OP, I am now rather hoping she IS a troll. At least that would mean there isn't a horse being ruined out there.

Dragonslayer - I am passionate about this because I am currently picking up the pieces with my horse (see my earlier post) and it's incredibly frustrating to see something awful happening, and for your advice and warnings to fall on deaf (and at times rather rude) ears. I know EXACTLY what it's like to come onto this forum asking for help and get a slating from perfect strangers, who are in actual fact not offering any form of advice. I cried my tears, and battled on with my problem regardless. The OP asked for advice, it was given (originally in a very calm and polite manner by most!) and she completely ignored it.

Her story has changed several times, and I'm sure I speak for the majority of us when I say that I couldn't care less about BSJASJ123 any more, I am now focused on caring about her poor horse. I would like to think that if the girl who ruined my horse had asked for advice on here re: bitting him, she would have had the same response. If she had done so, and had listened, my beautiful Zebedee wouldn't be the nervous wreck he is at the moment.

I've had enough now, and I'm going to perve on our sexy new farrier. Anyone coming?!
(Dragonslayer, in case you thought that comment was immature, I'm sticking my tongue out now...and I'm FAR too old to be doing such awful things!)
 
OK, so here is what I posted on one of her earlier threads - (IN JUNE)

BS123
Hey im 14 years old
5.9ft ish [still growing got growing pains atm]
10.2stone [muscle im a sprinter]
my horse is a 15.1hh tb x welsh D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9_M_7Fwd0o
^ last month 1st show - im proud at my riding as its 100 times better at before

i felt to big 2day to i look ok ? ima showjumper

Me

No, not too big and if you get Ebony going as well as that little pony goes, you'll do OK. I wouldn't be doing any jumping on Ebony 'til the flatwork is better and you are more of a pair. Nice to see you patting Nutmeg after 'elimination' (?) Take it steady, please, as that is a very nice little pony indeed. More work needed at home, again, I think, but a positive indication of his natural ability. I like them both.

Condemnatory? Don't think so.

Since then, we have been subjected to more rubbish and changing horses than a bin man and Frankie Dettori. I have lost patience and actually couldn't care any less about her. It's the poor horse I'm concerned about! I have had a totally ruined pony, whose brains were completely and irretrievably blown by a numpty SJ kid in Ireland. In the end, she was loaned out permanently as a hacking pony, although to her dying day, early 20's she was very unhappy in the school and went beserk at the sight of poles. If I got hold of the person responsible for screwing her up so badly and permanently, so help me I'd KILL them.

R.I.P. Erin, I loved you enough to keep you safe and Nickie loved you enough to take you on til the end.
 
Ballyboo said:
Oh, for crying out loud, Dragonslayer; get off your pedestal already. This forum is full of people passionate about horses - and you expect them not to get wound up when they perceive a horse may be being mistreated? The OP has obviously long gone, so give it a rest, why don't you?
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OoooOOOOOooo!

Touchy, aren't we?

No, I won't.

:D
 
Starzaan said:
Having just had a defensive PM from the OP, I am now rather hoping she IS a troll. At least that would mean there isn't a horse being ruined out there.

Dragonslayer - I am passionate about this because I am currently picking up the pieces with my horse (see my earlier post) and it's incredibly frustrating to see something awful happening, and for your advice and warnings to fall on deaf (and at times rather rude) ears. I know EXACTLY what it's like to come onto this forum asking for help and get a slating from perfect strangers, who are in actual fact not offering any form of advice. I cried my tears, and battled on with my problem regardless. The OP asked for advice, it was given (originally in a very calm and polite manner by most!) and she completely ignored it.

Her story has changed several times, and I'm sure I speak for the majority of us when I say that I couldn't care less about BSJASJ123 any more, I am now focused on caring about her poor horse. I would like to think that if the girl who ruined my horse had asked for advice on here re: bitting him, she would have had the same response. If she had done so, and had listened, my beautiful Zebedee wouldn't be the nervous wreck he is at the moment.

I've had enough now, and I'm going to perve on our sexy new farrier. Anyone coming?!
(Dragonslayer, in case you thought that comment was immature, I'm sticking my tongue out now...and I'm FAR too old to be doing such awful things!)
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I know her story has changed, I know she has been rude. Not for one minute have I EVEr agreed with what she has said.

The problem I see is that some poster cannot understand that they are bashing their heads against a brick wall in offering 'advice'. It appears she won't ever listen, so why waste time in giving a reply? Then when people think they are 'hard done by', the abuse starts.

And now people seem to be getting peeved with me. Makes me smile actually.

But I've said my piece, and I have no doubt that I will read other such threads where people ask advice then rant because they don't like the answer, then the advisors get het-up because of their response, and we get into a vicious circle...

And as for the farrier....meh, enjoy! :D
 
Im going to post something nice now :P Well done for today, you sound to me like a very good rider considering you do bsja ect ect, And your horse sounds very nice to(: Ignore everyone else, just do whatever you feel is best for you and the horse, they dont know anything about your horse and has never ridden it so they have not had the experience to tell you what to do , your horse your rules(: Very well done :)
 
DragonSlayer said:
Sure, she maybe old enough as this is an 'adult' forum, but 14 is NOT adult. Sorry to bust your bubble, but still people here are trying to reason with someone who lacks the maturity to cope with what is being said to her. At that age, it can VERY difficult to be able to accept even constructive criticism. Here's the crunch though, many people who have contributed have just been rude and arrogant in their attempt to 'pass on their worldy knowledge'....as I said earlier, if she can't take your advice, whether it be in shrieks and tears and you feel hard done by.....or blatantly ignores you, then just shrug your shoulders and be done with it. And no, I didn't give her advice, I first posted on this thread because I was wracked up in tears, howling at the responses that were being posted.....
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im 13 , and i never knew there was an age limit on here , And i never knew you had to be an adult to speak about horses?
 
I don't understand the reason for everybody's hatefull attitude in this post?

e.g the automatic assumtpion that OP thinks an outline is the horse sticking it's nose in, and she has no idea what she's doing, and that she'll ruin the horse.

Her riding is not 'awful', I don't see everybody's problem? To say she shouldn't even be jumping and she should be going over ground poles, is pure unnecessary. Especially the comment of "I will also say that if you go to jump a newcomers the way you did on your you tube video it you will knock your confidence hugely and you will either come off, your horse will fall, or you won’t get past the second jump – so please don’t!"

Sure a few things need tuning, but none of us are perfect. After all, those vids are old., and OP says she has had lessons and improved now.

Maybe some of you need to apologise and then back out :(
 
This post is very funny, BUT I would love to know how many of the posters use pelhams on their horses.

P.S - not going to comment on OP comments, I might get banned....lol
 
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