Shock Collar

jumbyjack

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Some time ago I bought one of these to try to stop my JRT's insane barking in the car. I have never been able to bring myself to use it in spite of trying it on myself and anyone else who would let me, at the lowest setting it is nothing more than a tingle but there are several settings and I'm sure it could be made to deliver a horrible shock. It's an expensive remote controlled collar by the way, not one of the type that shocks if the dog barks.

I'm reluctant to sell it as it could be an instrument of torture in the wrong hands and I would have no real way of knowing who I was letting have it as people are not always what they seem.

I do wish I'd never bought it in the first place as I have said I am not at all happy with the concept. I would appreciate some opinions on this, is there a place for these gadgets, do you think they are seriously cruel, should I try to sell it or just take a big hammer to it?
 
There was just a thread in soapbox about this look there.

IMHO in the right hands used at the right time for the right thing they are a valuable training tool, just as a pinch collar, check chain ect are.

I would be far more worried about someone using a check chain the wrong way than someone who knew what they were doing using a EC.
 
Just to add I have tried all settings on my arm and my neck.....cos it was deemed unfair I only try it on my arm
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none are even close to pain, more like a tickley tingle :

I also agree with Katies sentiments on this one
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I have never used one on any of my own dogs, as I have never needed too, but if the need arose I would not think twice.
I have seen them used very effectivly a good few times with other dogs, mainly for stock chasing or running away.
 
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Oh - and did you get the barking sorted? A car box or a crate with a rug thrown over it might help, if not.

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Agree with this....if they are loose, try containing them and blocking their view.
Or try splash collars if u cannot bare to use the electric one or u are affraid u will miss use, to be honest they only have to be tingled a few times then u can switch to the bleep which they should assosiate with the shock.
 
My friend has one which she puts on her JRT because she has a tendancy to get a scent and run (the dog not my friend, lol!). It has a hand-held remote control and has worked brilliantly when the dog has run. She's only used the shock about 3 times in a year and now wearing the collar is enough to concentrate the dog's mind.

FWIW, as soon as she gets the collar down the dog rushes to have it put on because it means a walk, so it can't hurt that much......

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I had to use one with beau when we went out on walks as even if we didnt walk through fields with sheep in (which he would be on a lead for) if we walked next to a field with sheep he would just go like a bullet into the field, not to attack the sheep just to play which lead to chase when they ran.

So I took him to my OH's family farm which is a sheep farm where i got him from and walked him up through their fields and used the collar if/when required, and now he can walk through the fields without it on and is 100% fine! (although I did try it on myself first to see if it was ok or dreadful, and also i used it in none sheep orientated situations a few times to see how he responded, so in a safe environment but with little distractions etc so that he realised that if I said leave the distraction and come back to me, he did)

As I say now he is fine and it only comes out if I know we are walking through "unknown" countryside which is not very common now due to him having bad hips!

I think if you are sensible, understanding, and get guidance before using it they are very helpful training tools.
Bbut I don't think they should be used to overcome things that can be done without it, like heel work training has taken me ages with beau, and I am sure it would have been easier with the collar, but I felt it was un necessary as it is close contact training.
 
Dad sells these on eBay and I have no problem with it - I figure if I can save one dog from being put down for stock worrying, or save one person the heart aches from losing an over enthusiastic hunting terrier, then it will be worth it

To be honest the evil people of this world tend to use blunter methods and wouldn't pay out for a training device.

Still horrified at a lady in my village with a tendency to hit her border with her walking stick when it comes back, I mean you don't punish a dog for coming back to you not matter what they have done
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Then she wonders why he hides from her.
 
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