Shocked at H+H advice not to wear too much hi-viz

The quote was taken from a section of the article dealing with the importance of hacking.

The full paragraph:
"A hi-viz vest may be prudent for roadwork, but not the Bertie Bassett levels of neon seen on some Horses and riders. Undoubtedly, traffic is a consideration. While volume and the shortage of off-road hacking is worse around London and big cities, winding rural roads can be as treacherous if one meets a wannabe rally driver."
 
Who ever she is she needs to get real. As far as I can see hi-viz (unless badly fitted, and even then...) is unlikely to do any harm, not wearing it on the other hand!
 
My goodness!
I don't think you can ever have enough. I think I'd paint Ned hi-viz if I could.

We have:
Hat band
Sheet
Polite tabbard
Noseband and browband covers
Front boot covers
Tail guard
Breast plate
Bandages (not used these yet, hopefully soon!)

I may be over doing it, but if it helps a car see me a few seconds earlier or a helicopter spot me if I fall off, then I don't care.
 
Buds_mum said:
Hey guys lets face it if your a pony patting, happy hacker who wears hi viz you just don't fit into the upper ranks of H+H

I do however think that H+H will find the vast amount of their readers are 'pansies' who molly coddle their pet ponies. I for one certainly am. And me and my boy look like a christmas tree when we hack. So what.

Idiot, thoughtless comment. Too much like trying to fit into the peer groups at school, wearing hi viz is like taking a lunch box :rolleyes:
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this^^

both horse and rider should wear hi viz. what if your thrown off and your horse had no hiviz on? he could run off down the road and be hit by a vehicle at the best of times, but especially so if its not got the minimum of 4 hi viz leg bands. (mine wears these plus bridle attachments and a hi viz martingale, I wear a tabard and hat band)
 
Ceris Comet said:
Change the title of this thread to " Shocked at H&H advice not to wear too much hi viz " and see it makes it to top forum threads next issue !
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Agree, I thought it was going to be OP asking whether she was wearing too much. H&H should do an article next month about road safety to make up for it.
Horse and Rider (I think) mentioned wearing hi-viz is a must when hacking.
 
I think that you can only edit for the first few minutes after a thread has been posted. Maybe a request to Fatty would be the only option now?
 
Well that 'reporter' women is a bit of a **** isn't she? Lets hope she doesn't ever get mown down by a car then for not being visible - if she even rides. Thank god I've never bought the mag - would hate to be contributing to the wages of idiots like her.

ETS H&H wouldn't have the balls to highlight this stupid woman's comments as being... well just that... stupid!
 
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It's lovely to see HHO actually all agreeing for once! Especially over something like this!

What a stupid thing to say out loud, let alone print in a highly respected equestrian publication. Ridiculous. I hope H&H can offer something in the next issue to point out that it was a silly thing to say, and of course wearing as much hi-viz as possible is the best idea. There are already too many people out there who don't wear it for a fashion statement - I'd wear it to make one!
 
As someone who has been hit by a 'rally driver' out hacking down a country lane, i do 'consider the traffic' when putting on my Hi Viz before I ride.

Terrible comment to make. Complaint letter to compose. Champagne to win.
 
Yay! Title has been changed :)

My Dad made an interesting point "Sometimes people just don't want to see you" Which I think is true. If you're going to get hit, you're going to get hit.
He's not saying we shouldn't wear it, he goes out like a lightbulb when he goes biking and strongly disagrees with the article, but I'm sure it's true that some people don't care to see others. (Having had someone pull out on me whilst driving, as I was going around a round about. They looked me directly in the eye!)

Still, if my hi-viz makes any difference, I'll be pleased.
 
The roads are so dangerous now I dont think there can be too much unless its flapping in the breeze.

I currently have at least a tabbard and leg wraps and also have a pink exercise sheet in the winter.

The traffic is so fast now that the earliest people can see you the better.
 
Nah said:
Yay! Title has been changed :)

My Dad made an interesting point "Sometimes people just don't want to see you" Which I think is true. If you're going to get hit, you're going to get hit.
He's not saying we shouldn't wear it, he goes out like a lightbulb when he goes biking and strongly disagrees with the article, but I'm sure it's true that some people don't care to see others. (Having had someone pull out on me whilst driving, as I was going around a round about. They looked me directly in the eye!)

Still, if my hi-viz makes any difference, I'll be pleased.
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But...... at least if that is their approach (and I agree with you) then when they do hit you they will not be nearly as easily claim they didnt see you and wriggle out of the criminal and civil legal consequences. Which for me, is at least part of why I never go out without it.
 
Kallibear said:
If it saves my horses life (or mine), there is no such thing as 'too much' hi-viz.

I personally think it should be a legal requirement for riders (horse and cyclists) to wear hiviz on the roads. Some insurance companies have very sensibly got it in one of their clauses.
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Fully agree with this. Cyclists are often even harder to spot than horses.
 
lachlanandmarcus said:
But...... at least if that is their approach (and I agree with you) then when they do hit you they will not be nearly as easily claim they didnt see you and wriggle out of the criminal and civil legal consequences. Which for me, is at least part of why I never go out without it.
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Yes, if the worst did happen, I'd like to have everything in my favour.
 
I am shocked that the piece on Hi-vis past the editors final say. I hope the person who wrote it never has to ride on the road for their own and horses safety
 
I agree with h&h you certainly can get too much hi viz!
A tabbed is usually enough anything more excessive and looks ridiculous to the motorist encouraging them not to take you seriously eg when clothed all over in high vid Barbie pink!
Those here that do it certainly get mocked by the neighbours ( non horsey ) and yes they do mollycoddle their horses!
 
What a snotty, snobby statement to make. Obviously serious and proper riders go out without hi-viz and without hats or chinstraps because they are so accomplished and the rest of us are mere amateurs who don't have a clue because we are pansies. What a pillock.
 
Totally and utterly ridiculous - can't believe that anyone would be idiotic enough to (a) think that (b) print it!

new clique anyone? 'I rock out with the bertie basset look'? :D
 
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