Shocked at H+H advice not to wear too much hi-viz

ye god, 91 pages to a thread...not going to read through it, but talking of hi viz, I just saw in the news that Churchill have refused to pay out a £5 million award to a young girl left brain damaged after being hit by a car as she walked along a road, because she was not wearing hi viz. Last I heard it was not law to do so when walking,common sense may be, but not law....
 
You put your hands on your hips...

you bring your knees in tiiiiiiight

You do the pelvic thrust...

let it drive you insaaaaaaaaaaaaane
 
You're all approaching this the wrong way if you want to revive it.
In my opinion, only nervous, novicey numpties wear hi-viz, or indeed hats. Competent riders don't buy a load of nasty tat, instead they can rely on their superior riding ability & trained horses. It's always been difficult to have an effective way of qualifying rider experience, but imo it can be assessed by how much hi-viz a rider wears. Eg:
 
Stupid phone!
Eg:
-no hi-viz, experienced.
-tabard, average
-tabard & leg wraps, competent novice
- tabard, leg wraps & hat band, nervous novice.
And so on.
 
Littlelegs that is the biggest load of cobblers I have ever heard. Everyone knows that the really competant riders are sat in the coffee room talking about idiots in hi-viz and not on a horse at all :rolleyes:
 
I should just shoot myself now.

Hi-viz, hat, cob :eek:. Plus barefoot, treeless and bitless. There is no hope for me.

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After reading this entire thread on my mobile tonight (which is no mean feat let me tell you :D ) I have only just noticed the date of the original post was in May last year and was wondering ...... Did H&H ever print the response letter that the BHS sent into them ? Did the brilliant horseriding Bertie Basset in hiviz picture ever get copyrighted? Did H&H ever retract or explain their statement further?
 
Guess, as the op, I should fill you in.

H+h did print the BHS letter, and several others. Editorially, they squirmed on the "only kidding folks" basis and affirmed their commitment to hi-viz.

Bertie Bassett didn't take off.

Congratualtions on reading whole thread, confess I haven't!
 
Today's H+H has an article on mollycoddling horses. Most is about overfeeding/rugging/clipping etc., but it also implies that wearing more than a hi-viz tabard is excessive.

Bit shocked to be honest. Thought the recommendation was for some hi viz on both horse and rider.

What do you think?
I think I'd prefer to take my equine insurance company's advice on this rather than H&H's. Bearing in mind that many insurance companies would find you at least somewhat at fault if you were involved in an RTA and you were not wearing a minimum of 4 pieces of hi-vis, even if you were quiltless in the cause of the accident.

It's worth checking this with your insurers.
 
I must confess that somewhere on here I have opened myself up to a police prosecution - I've put a piccie of Shy and I wearing POLITE HI VIZ !!!! :eek:

I am prepared for a knock on the door.

Kallibear, that is a fantastic photo - we too are hippies ;)
 
I think I'd prefer to take my equine insurance company's advice on this rather than H&H's. Bearing in mind that many insurance companies would find you at least somewhat at fault if you were involved in an RTA and you were not wearing a minimum of 4 pieces of hi-vis, even if you were quiltless in the cause of the accident.

It's worth checking this with your insurers.

I'd prefer to take my own advice, while remembering that insurance companies do not make the law, and there is no case where damages have been reduced in tort or delict for a failure to wear hi-viz.

Parliament and the courts make law, the latter interpret existing law also, and insurance companies must abide by the law. Therefore, if challenged, if insurance companies get it wrong, they will lose.
 
I prefer to keep myself and my horse at as low risk as possible while riding on roads :) So I shall continue to use the mares Hi-Viz leg wraps, martingale type straps, tail wrap and occaisionally exercise sheet, my Hi-Viz long sleeved jacket, gloves and hat band. The insurance position doesn't bother me particularly, what does concern me is letting people see that we are there. I was very pleased one day to have a car full of boy racer types slow down to tell me how much they like my mares socks :D :D
 
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