Shocked at H+H advice not to wear too much hi-viz

I emailed direct to senior members in ipc media regarding this ...... Not even had a reply, ive printed off a copy of all their magazines and holdings, if they dont have the decency to respond, why should i buy anything that'll give them a profit, cant say im impressed if this is how they react to their customers .
 
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marydoll said:
I emailed direct to senior members in ipc media regarding this ...... Not even had a reply, ive printed off a copy of all their magazines and holdings, if they dont have the decency to respond, why should i buy anything that'll give them a profit, cant say im impressed if this is how they react to their customers .
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BHS have emailed me a response to this thread saying that they are going to respond to the article but have no guarantee H&H will print in the next magazine.

Hopefully they will!

Pan
 
As someone from a 'tradition' horsey background, an instructor and y.o I found the whole article rather patronising! The hi-viz comment was most unhelpful considering all the recent work done by the BHS etc to encourage people to wear more hi-viz :confused:
 
marydoll said:
I emailed direct to senior members in ipc media regarding this ...... Not even had a reply, ive printed off a copy of all their magazines and holdings, if they dont have the decency to respond, why should i buy anything that'll give them a profit, cant say im impressed if this is how they react to their customers .
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Just wondering if those that feel so strongly and are boycotting the magazine will also be boycotting HHO ? Seems a little incongruous to be still using the forum.

Disclaimer. Yes I do wear hi viz and no, I didn't take offence at the article. Thought it was tongue in cheek remark with enough element of truth to be amusing.

Perhaps the article has actually promoted hi viz judging by the number of posters rushing out to buy extra items.
Perhaps HH should have a pat on the back.
 
BlairandAzria said:
The thing is.....as soon as you and your horse step foot on the roads you cease to have control: you cant possibly know what you are going to come across; tractors, buses, a hgv, a milk float, a flotilla of cyclists wizzing past, or even a granny driving her nissan micra back from afternoon bingo, you just dont know.
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Well, I started this thread thinking "urgh silly H&H", now I'm sad :( I have a nissan micra, and I'm not a old granny :( :p:p


this isn't me riding but it's my hi viz stuff

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we do get funny looks when she wears that lol, but if they're looking at us funny it must mean they can see us :P


I usually have a hiviz jacket on when I ride as well as the tabard, but I was wearing that walking at the side lol
She also has leg wraps & I'm currently looking out for hat band lol
 
Ooops sorry ....maybe I should qualify....my granny drives a Nissan micra (to and from tescos once a week and too and from the bingo once a week, like clockwork), sorry no offence intended to any Nissan drivers!
 
BlairandAzria said:
Ooops sorry ....maybe I should qualify....my granny drives a Nissan micra (to and from tescos once a week and too and from the bingo once a week, like clockwork), sorry no offence intended to any Nissan drivers!
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I'm not offended, I have micra attitude :cool: I actually think it's an old man car.... but Mr Marvin Bubble taught me to drive and passed my test for me so I'm fond of the ol' rust bucket lol
 
Had a driving lesson today and I mentioned this thread and the comments made to my instructor. He said he can understand how people would think a lot of hi-viz is silly, but as a driver, if he can see the horses earlier, then that's fine by him!
 
horserider said:
Just wondering if those that feel so strongly and are boycotting the magazine will also be boycotting HHO ? Seems a little incongruous to be still using the forum.

Disclaimer. Yes I do wear hi viz and no, I didn't take offence at the article. Thought it was tongue in cheek remark with enough element of truth to be amusing.

Perhaps the article has actually promoted hi viz judging by the number of posters rushing out to buy extra items.
Perhaps HH should have a pat on the back.
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Nope i'll still use the forum,and will reconsider stance on their products if they actually aknowledge my emails, i understand theres 2 sides to a disagreement, but to ignore this level of protest in such a dismissive way is wrong
 
BlairandAzria said:
Ooops sorry ....maybe I should qualify....my granny drives a Nissan micra (to and from tescos once a week and too and from the bingo once a week, like clockwork), sorry no offence intended to any Nissan drivers!
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Ha ha, im a granny and a nissan driver, but its a navarra :eek::eek: and id never be at the bingo, more likely the feedstore or stables :D
 
Dizzle said:
Even if you are hacking on a private estate off road you should still be in high viz, if you were to fall it's the only way the air ambulance would see you.
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Not True...unless you were dead.

Air Ambulances are fitted with Thermal Imaging Equipment
 
For those earlier in the thread who's horses do not wear boots I used to use velcro'ed fluorescent/reflective strips just wrapped round the legs. About 3 inches wide, 1 inch top and bottom bright yellow with a reflective strip in between. My cob wore them around just below the knee cos her feathers would not allow them to sit lower and the finer boned connieX wore them around the bottom of the cannon/top of the fetlock at the widest point, they sat nicely on both. You don't need boots for reflective strips to work :).
 
My Horse doesn't choose to go on the roads. I choose to take her on the roads. So the least I can do is make sure she is as safe as she can be. I'm the only one who wears hi-vis on my yard. My YO's sharer often has a little joke about being so paranoid. My reply is always the same "Better to look like this, then mine and Ruby's remains on the road"

I wear a tabbard and my Horse has legbands on all 4 legs. I am looking for a sheet too. After reading this thread I think I will also invest in a hat band for me too.

I would never forgive myself if ever Ruby was hit by a car and she wasn't wearing any hi-vis. I would have to spend the rest of my life thinking "what if she was wearing some"

H+H should be ashamed.

I actually think that the riders who don't wear any hi-vis are the nervous nellies ;) not so much as to riding. But in general. They would rather be splattered by a car then risk looking a little "silly", Now that's sad!
 
'S'teamed said:
Not True...unless you were dead.

Air Ambulances are fitted with Thermal Imaging Equipment
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I distinctly remember a report in H&H mag, not that long ago, about a woman who had a fall whilst riding in a field of longish grass, and it was a long time before she was found because she wasn't wearing hiviz and the heli crew could not see her.

And H&H advocated wearing hiviz even when riding off road :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Though perhaps they've forgotten that bit ...
 
Ohh and your Horse doesn't need to wear boots to wear leg wraps. I got these of Ebay new for £1 each.
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I know she has boots on here, but she doesn't always.
 
Ceris Comet said:
If trying to keep this issue in the forefront of peoples minds and want to saves lives is talking c**p then I guess I'll just carry on .
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You are either deliberately obtuse, or you read what is written, it is then processed by your brain and comes out completely scrambled :eek:.

I never stated that hi viz shouldn't be worn. I myself wear a tabbard (I repeated this more than once :rolleyes:), I was suitably mocked by yourself, as were others who took the same stance.

PN posts and you thank him for his good advice.

Why is advice from PN good, whilst the same from me and others was mocked some 12 pages back?
 
PN never mentioned tabards, he advocated wearing long sleeved hiviz so drivers can see your arm signals, which is good advice. For R&RS we recommend hi viz and light coloured sleeves or hiviz with long sleeves and white or hiviz gloves. If someone is riding along in a hiviz tabard with dark sleeves and dark gloves, it is perfectly possible that although the rider may be seen, the signal giving the intention of the rider may not be.
 
I'm not going to rise to the bait. This issue is far to serious to drag into the playground.
My motive for keeping this thread alive it so that as many people as possible see it and think twice before taking H&H advice and so putting themselves at risk. I have two teenagers who are hard enough to get to wear hi-viz as it is.
 
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