Shoesecure for horse that pulls shoes constantly

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i have a mare who lives out 24/7 with no chance of her living in as she goes crazy. she is constantly pulling off shoes, one a week currently. and this has started to have a bad impact of her hooves. so much so there’s barely any hoof to attach a shoe onto. i have tried everything but have recently come across shoesecure. i love the idea and am willing to try but just wanted to know peoples opinions on them. especially how long they lasted or how long they will last for a mare that lives out 24/7 (as they are not cheap). if people do not recommend them what else could i do, as i stated earlier she cannot live indoors under any circumstances as she becomes unmanageable.
 
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What is the balance like on her hooves? How long is it since she last had a break from shoes?

If the root of the issue is hoof balance, then using something like a shoe secure is treating the symptom and not the 'disease' if that makes sense.

I would look at Rockley Farm's blog and barefoot rehabs.
 
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we’ve had a long line of problems with her shoes. she was left in a field for 2 years without any attention so needed remedial shoeing to help her regain balance and come back into work. we work between the simon constable vet and our farrier and both have decided she does in fact need shoes as her back legs otherwise are not appropriately supported. we have upped biotin into her feed so we know it’s not that that is the issue. we also dress her hooves ever night.
 
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Tiddlypom said:
Does the mare even need shoes? Have you tried her without? It can take a little while for a horse to transition from shod to barefoot, but many of them go on to cope just fine.
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unfortunately due to her being abandoned for 2 years she does need shoes to help her balance otherwise her feet do not stand correctly. (she’s almost pigeon foot)
 
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Meowy Catkin said:
What is the balance like on her hooves? How long is it since she last had a break from shoes?

If the root of the issue is hoof balance, then using something like a shoe secure is treating the symptom and not the 'disease' if that makes sense.

I would look at Rockley Farm's blog and barefoot rehabs.
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we’ve had a long line of problems with her shoes. she was left in a field for 2 years without any attention so needed remedial shoeing to help her regain balance and come back into work. we work between the simon constable vet and our farrier and both have decided she does in fact need shoes as her back legs otherwise are not appropriately supported. we have upped biotin into her feed so we know it’s not that that is the issue. we also dress her hooves ever night.
 
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Regardless of needing shoes or otherwise, I'd also be interested in finding out more about the Shoe secure system.

I have a horse who would benefit from anything that keeps his front shoes out when he's out 24/7. Losing them significantly impacts on his soundness.
 
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There were a few threads about them a few years ago. IIRC, you need stud holes put in the horseshoes so that the shoe secures can be attached.
 
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Meowy Catkin said:
It would be unusual for a UK based horse (if that is where you are) to be deficient in biotin. Usually people want a low iron specialist hoof supplement. EG https://forageplus.co.uk/product/hoof-and-skin-health-summer-horse-feed-balancer/

she definitely needs shoes. as i said in my post she went 2 years without any attention and i’ve been advised by my vets that she is shod. she also sufferers with corns of her feet aren’t kept well supported. as well as this i take her eventing and it cannot be certain what surface we will be riding on. woudlnt want my horse on hard mud barefoot with the condition of her feet!

Please do read this. https://rockleyfarm.blogspot.com/

I have a horse that definitely needed shoes... she's been unshod and sound for 9 years now having been struggling in shoes.
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Meowy Catkin said:
There were a few threads about them a few years ago. IIRC, you need stud holes put in the horseshoes so that the shoe secures can be attached.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned but I used glue on shoes for my boy when I got him. A bit pricey but they work. It helped while we sorted out his balance and quality of the hoof.
 
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I spoke to my farrier this morning about the shoe secure.
He said it has issues.
Mud gets compacted between the heels and the plastic.
As soon as the rows grow, it puts pressure on the heels and rubs.
You can't leave them on 24/7 as they rub.
The bolts that screw into the shoes lose their thread with use
As the hoof grows, the bolts no longer fit the stud holes.

On the upside, he did say they come in lots of pretty colours!
 
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spacefaer said:
I spoke to my farrier this morning about the shoe secure.
He said it has issues.
Mud gets compacted between the heels and the plastic.
As soon as the rows grow, it puts pressure on the heels and rubs.
You can't leave them on 24/7 as they rub.
The bolts that screw into the shoes lose their thread with use
As the hoof grows, the bolts no longer fit the stud holes.

On the upside, he did say they come in lots of pretty colours!
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Thanks for that, it's really useful information as I can't remember anyone spelling out the downsides before. Everything he said makes sense when I think about it.
 
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I can imagine them being really useful in certain situations. EG the horse I knew that had a keratoma removed from his hoof. When he started to be allowed short turnout sessions, having a shoe secure on that hoof would have helped remove the possibility of him pulling the shoe on that hoof off (and he really needed it on having had a large portion of the hoof removed to access the keratoma) and he had to have dry turnout so the mud issue wasn't a factor.
 
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I found that they did the job I needed them to- ie, they kept the shoes on! They were super high maintenance however in order to counteract the issues you mention.
 
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