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My opinions changing....
I've always supported and loved seeing the hunt, not just bumping into or by chance but I take my daughter to any local meets and pull over to watch if I pass by chance. However, I'm struggling slightly at the minute. I recently contacted via email one of my local hunts as ive finally got a horse i could have a go on but my reply was blunt and unwelcoming to say the least- i put this down to the fact i was unlnown possibly anti trying to gain info maybe?
Firstly the blatant rudeness of some followers/ hunt staff when met on the roads, the fact they appear not to give a damn about very much other than themselves (as in ground, horses they pass etc). Also I'm not an idiot I know what hunting entails then and now and I'm happy with that- as far as I see its tradition it happens. The bit I'm not so keen on is that they go around blocking holes and ways of escape making for a very unfair hunt surely? . I'm oddly dissapointed tbh!
*shimmys away to safety!* ;)
 
Why would the hunt block holes? Do those laying the trail tend to go to earth?

If so, I tend to agree with you. That would be very unsporting....:eek:
 
I can understand your objection to rudeness. There is never an excuse for that and I apologise for my flippant remark which was meant in fun.

When I first started following hounds (on foot), I held a gate open for a rider and did not even get a nod in acknowledgement. I remember that as if it was yesterday and it must be at least 60 years ago so, yes, manners are important.

Why not meet the hunt servant who was rude, face to face? I am sure you could tactfully mention in the conversation how much hunts need to get their public relations right in today's climate and perhaps there was a good reason for the earth stopping?

But we are all human and all have our bad days.
 
Have heard this about a Hunt Leics way, sure there was a court case. I do not object about people hunting, however, I find them very rude. My good friend hunts a lot and even she was amazed about the attitude of keeping the " right " people in hunting.
 
On a manners side of view. As a kid I was in the middle of a farm with no houses bar mine and next doors for miles. Mostly private with one footpath which then turned into a shorter bridleway. Hunt came through. They went through my garden (jumping high tensile fencing in and out with no view obscured) which was quite clearly garden not farmland. Always remember dad kicking a dog away that launched towards me at the time and made me very scared of a sport I'd previously loved to watch go past.*still can't believe that anyone would think it would be okay to jump into a garden with a family stood in it.

The last hunt I saw was a shambles and most had come back off their horses after 5 minutes of leaving (never seen anything like it!)

However I pass the guy exercising the dogs in the mornings and he's lovely. There are two places in about a mile where he can pull in with the dogs, so you have to hang back a while but without fail always get a big thank you. That's what sticks in mind, manners.
 
I think, like all sports/ groups, it really depends on the individuals.
We live on a main A road and the hunt came past a month or so ago and a hound got left behind, a lady diving past pulled in to our house and asked if we'd lost a dog as there was one running around on the road!
My OH went out with a leadrope and tried to catch it, but hunt lady came back and collected it before he could catch it (I suspect hound was a little fitter than my OH!)

The next day the hunt lady turned up at our house with a box of chocolates to say thank you for OH trying to help - very unexpected but a really nice touch!

But I've heard of people in the same hunt being very rude to local land owners.

I'm sure in dressage and SJ etc. sometimes you meet really nice welcoming people and some people you can't help but be happy when their horse is a pig in the ring !
 
The hunt around us can be quite rude, some are lovely and are my friends but......

They have been across our land twice without letting us know, apparently they came round and knocked on the door but noone was in and didn't leave a note. I had to try and turn my pony out when they where at the bottom of our dive!! Hense pony forgetting all maners he has.

On the same day one of hounds got a rabbit but only half killed, one of riders said to another sort that will you. He rode his horse over the top of it to try and kill it!! But the horse only walked across it's back legs so not only was it dieing slowly they then snapped it's back legs. They then went galloping up our fields whilest saying to ME will you sort that (pointing at the rabbit) and left.

Needless to say I have never killed anything fury in my life (only spiders and insects) so I had no idea what the hell to do with it. Lucky for me as I picked it up hoping OH's mother would do the dead it died. She also was very cross and said she couldn't kill a rabbit either :(
 
fizzer said:
Have heard this about a Hunt Leics way, sure there was a court case. I do not object about people hunting, however, I find them very rude. My good friend hunts a lot and even she was amazed about the attitude of keeping the " right " people in hunting.
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Thats exactly it - "keeping the right people in hunting" - and the Leics Hunt (which starts with the letter F?) - I have personal experience of sheer rudeness that happened maybe 15 years ago but I remember every time I see them out.

A friend with an old heavy wooden ramp needed a hand so after seeing her safely onboard watched in horror as lady on boisterous horse back its arse into my car door - where newborn baby was safely sleeping - I shouted "careful" of course understanding that it was totally accidental but she turned, glared and looked down on me like I was just the bloody "help" - no apology, no sorry, no nothing - I was totally speechless.
 
picolenicole said:
The hunt around us can be quite rude, some are lovely and are my friends but......

They have been across our land twice without letting us know, apparently they came round and knocked on the door but noone was in and didn't leave a note. I had to try and turn my pony out when they where at the bottom of our dive!! Hense pony forgetting all maners he has.

On the same day one of hounds got a rabbit but only half killed, one of riders said to another sort that will you. He rode his horse over the top of it to try and kill it!! But the horse only walked across it's back legs so not only was it dieing slowly they then snapped it's back legs. They then went galloping up our fields whilest saying to ME will you sort that (pointing at the rabbit) and left.

Needless to say I have never killed anything fury in my life (only spiders and insects) so I had no idea what the hell to do with it. Lucky for me as I picked it up hoping OH's mother would do the dead it died. She also was very cross and said she couldn't kill a rabbit either :(
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That would be totally unacceptable especially as killing a rabbit is literally a quick tug on the neck. If they lack to skills to deal with it they shouldn't be out on the hunt in the first place. Why didn't the dogs sort it they are usually pretty swift with rabbit.

Permission should always be sought to go across ground am surprised that they treat their landowners with such contempt in the long run it doesn't do anyone any good. Be worth getting in touch with them to have a quiet word.

Maybe its time to start doing what the french do and hang up signs that either welcome or ask hunters/hunt not to use land. My inlaws have to have them posted up to stop people shooting on their grounds during the seasons it could also be employed for the local hunt then it won't matter if your home or not.
 
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I only asked as I find them really friendly, I think that they are wary of outsiders because of sabs but once they know who you are, I couldnt ask for a more supportive, fun and kind hunt. They all look after each other and have a variety of ages going so its always a good day.

I have seen a couple of riders acting like right idiots a few weeks ago and although no-one directly said anything to them, they are consequently banned although I am not suprised! They should of been sent home!

There is another local hunt however who is 'really friendly' and easily give out meet lists but they are also one of the most sab'd hunts in the country so hunts can't win! x
 
Noels_Star_Chaser said:
Maybe your the 'right' people :D
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I like to think we are polite, well mannered and respectful of others view points. As to your stereotypical view of those who hunt you are so off the mark. We live in a modest 3 bed semi on the outskirts of a large town. We drive a 10 year old 4x4 with an equally old trailer. All state educated and parents work in public service. We don't smoke, drink or holiday abroad. One of our pleasures is our daughters horse and we all enjoy going out with her when she hunts. In our first season we have found everyone to be polite and welcoming.

The OP said she had received a blunt email - perhaps the secretary is also a busy working person and doesn't have too much time to reply to all who contact them in a full blown response.
 
Noels_Star_Chaser said:
That would be totally unacceptable especially as killing a rabbit is literally a quick tug on the neck. If they lack to skills to deal with it they shouldn't be out on the hunt in the first place. Why didn't the dogs sort it they are usually pretty swift with rabbit.

Permission should always be sought to go across ground am surprised that they treat their landowners with such contempt in the long run it doesn't do anyone any good. Be worth getting in touch with them to have a quiet word.

Maybe its time to start doing what the french do and hang up signs that either welcome or ask hunters/hunt not to use land. My inlaws have to have them posted up to stop people shooting on their grounds during the seasons it could also be employed for the local hunt then it won't matter if your home or not.
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The hounds where right up the field, they had jumped wall and gone off in front. Well all but one that came 5 mins later and was errr..... a little on the dim side and wanted the gate opening for it, to say the least my Scottie sent it off about 4 times as the hound was quite happy to stay with me on the yard :D (was a nice hound as well)

The OH's mother did ring them and have a little word. I think they have a new hunts master, if I'm calling him by his right hunting title. :confused:
 
I know what you mean but I think it's much the same in all walks of life. I've had both ends of the scale I suppose as I've never really been a 'regular' due to finances.

I found the OBH made me feel very welcome, North Cots a bit hit and miss (although I knew a lot of people so wasn't so bad), Cottesmore is pretty friendly also and the secretary very helpful.
 
I went off hunting big time last year when I parted ways with my horse - who was being a complete nightmare and I was trying to hack home.

The whole hunt came galloping past me whilst I was on foot and no-one asked if I was okay - that includes the followers in the cars. When I caught up with them some old guy asked the car drivers if someone could take me to find my horse and they all turned their backs on me and kept chatting. I will never forget those manners.
 
dixie said:
I went off hunting big time last year when I parted ways with my horse - who was being a complete nightmare and I was trying to hack home.

The whole hunt came galloping past me whilst I was on foot and no-one asked if I was okay - that includes the followers in the cars. When I caught up with them some old guy asked the car drivers if someone could take me to find my horse and they all turned their backs on me and kept chatting. I will never forget those manners.
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OMG that's horrendous! Rude so and so's!:eek:
 
I know, I wasn't happy and was expecting to see my horse lying on the road round every corner or worse still having galloped through someone out on a lovely walk.

It was offset by some lovely people on bicycles who furiously pedalled home to get their car and help me find him!
 
Rudolph_bum said:
'Keeping the right people in hunting' what a load of twaddle! I hunt with one of the most prestigious packs in the country and they have been nothing but friendly and welcoming to me.
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My friend was told this at the Hunt Ball as she asked why prices were so high. Came from the "Horses Mouth" So not twaddle
 
If you are "in" then people are very friendly and nice and helpful. If you are not then many, not all, are suspicious and, frankly, a bit superior. Generally not the bigwigs, who know that they have to keep on the right side of the general public.

I go to hunt things, but as I don't hunt I am regarded with suspicion and frankly, most are not that friendly, other than the people who can remember when I did hunt regularly, and also know that the hunt comes across our ground sometimes!
 
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