Should all rescues be licenced /regulated??

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I keep seeing many little dog "rescue places " pop up all over the place some asking for cash donations through fb accounts, should these be regulated and checked on by authorities as other animal establishments are to ensure the welfare of the animals and should it be allowed that they can collect cash donations without being a registered charity. I understand these places are needed but have heard of some pretty bad ones too :(
 
Is that yes to licenced OR charity status before being allowed to collect funds.
Is there already regs in place for this sort of thing ?
 
sammy93 said:
Is that yes to licenced OR charity status before being allowed to collect funds.
Is there already regs in place for this sort of thing ?
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Line 1, Yes definitely, both.

Line 2, Don't know.

Unwittingly, I'll admit, but the forest of animal welfare and rescue centres are actually having a counter-productive effect, and animal welfare is rapidly, and in many ways, becoming a memory.

I'll accept that most act in a principled manner, and that they do their very best, but the end product of their efforts is that they become the dumping ground for the Breeder, via the Buyer.

I listen to and read of the efforts of many, and whilst I've no wish to decry their efforts, all so often I see very well intentioned people who haven't actually a clue what they're doing.

I realise that my thoughts will anger some, and that genuinely isn't my intention, but I see far too many who though starting out with the best of intentions, lose their way, and in the long term, it's the animals which suffer.

Alec.
 
I think there definitely needs to be some mechanism to prevent ego-tastic animal hoarders who get in way over their head, who get a warm rosy glow from their endeavours, and still think their unsocialised, underfed animals have been 'rescued' and people who collect free or cheap animals, keep them in a big shed, ask for money for 'rehab' and 'operations' and yet make quite a bit of untaxed money from 'adoption fees' but it's OK, cause they really love animals.


There are some brilliant rescues out there, having said that.
 
CaveCanem said:
I think there definitely needs to be some mechanism to prevent ego-tastic animal hoarders who get in way over their head, who get a warm rosy glow from their endeavours, and still think their unsocialised, underfed animals have been 'rescued' and people who collect free or cheap animals, keep them in a big shed, ask for money for 'rehab' and 'operations' and yet make quite a bit of untaxed money from 'adoption fees' but it's OK, cause they really love animals.


There are some brilliant rescues out there, having said that.
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^^^ This, absolutely.^^^


However, how do you regulate it ? How do you tell the difference between someone who rescues a few dogs/horses and asks for friends to help out with costs and care ?

There are many people who suddenly faced with a couple of horses in need, manage to take on the horses due to the help of fellow liveries and friends.

I'm not sure that making everyone who asks for donations should be a registered charity, unless it is an on going enterprise rehoming animals.

Perhaps people should have to declare that they are not a registered charity and have to make public accounts showing how all money donated was spent.
 
A difficult one this.
From the breed rescue point of view - most smaller breed ones do not meet the charity income / turnover limits and any advantage of being a charity would be swallowed by red tape/ paperwork. They are run by volunteers. The KC listed ones do have to supply vet or breed club refences.
There are a lot of charities around that are in fact income sources with people running "rescues" from their own property and renting it to the charity, taking a wage and taking all the rates & tax concessions they can tap into.
There are others that pretend to be charities but are in fact businesses -they may claim to be "not for profit" but wages come out before profits.
 
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I think they should, totally agree with some of the comments above. I wont say more as this is a subject that really gets me ranting so will shut up before I start :p
 
I think there should be some sort of council licensing requirement for facilities/care standards. I don't think charity status is practical for many.
 
I think they need monitoring rather than being licensed.
Even charities can fall foul of the law regarding humane care.
There's a "rescue" in a certain part of Oxfordshire that IS a registered charity but was abusing so many animals it was finally raided and they are being taken to court. It only took 2 years campaigning before the rspca acted leaving many animals, neglected and starving to death for those 2 years, we had a dog from there and had to rescue her from the rescue centre.
Unbelievingly the rspca removed 78 animals and left a load behind to continue the suffering. So I for one feel monitoring and regular un announced inspections are far more important.
 
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