Should i move yards - advice please!

jimbojones

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Hi - I'm looking to get some advice on moving yards. I am an active user on the forum but as there are a few people from my yard who use this forum I didn't want to post using my normal user id.

I've been at my current yard for a year - I really like it, it's small, has good facilities (indoor+outdoor), hacking is not great unless it's really dry, otherwise you need to hack on quite a busy road which is not fun sometimes.

I had been putting the feelers out a few weeks ago just to see what was available but recently a couple of things have happened at the yard which has made me think more seriously about moving! Firstly, the yard although small can be cliquey and everyone bitches about everyone else - I'm now trying to keep out of everyones way - although I like them, I'm there for my horse and don't want to get caught up in long conversations our go out for lunch etc - that may make me seem antisocial but that's the way I am.

My second concern is around fields/turnout. Nags have been out all summer (since May) which is great but we'll be bringing them in for winter soon. We have 5 fields - one large one which is in pretty good nick, and 4 smaller ones, 3 of which are really wet and boggy even in summer. Last winter was horrid - the fields were trashed, there was little grazing and the horses were miserable although they are not turned out for very long which is another issue - Y/O has 2 young kids who she needs to sort in the morning - by the time she gets them sorted and out to school/nursery it is sometimes 11 am before they are turned out and they often they come in again about 4pm although sometimes they are out til about 6 but this year there is talk of giving them one day in then one day out!!For this assisted DIY I pay £140 per month but obviously hay and straw will be at least £60 per month if we have to keep them in!

I am going to see another yard today which is slightly further from home (13 mile instead of 6) but it is part livery Mon - Fri then DIY at weekends. For £200 pcm they feed, rug, turn out, muck out, bring in and provide hay/haylage. They have a large outdoor school and excellent hacking. I'm thinking that if the fields are good and they provide better winter turnout I may move.

I am just worried though that I move and hate it as I know the grass is not always greener and I was very lucky when I moved to my current yard as it is so much better than my last one! I also worry if I could cope with part livery - what if it's not up to my standard etc?

Can someone please give me a good shake and tell me what sounds best!

J x
 
Is there nowhere closer? Is it 13 miles each way, if it is your fuel price is going to double ontop of your livery charges. Does your current yard have a school that could be used during the winter for the horses to stretch their legs. I suppose a few hours turnout is better than none and i would prefer a couple of hours a day rather than 1 day in, 1 out. Does your stable have rubber mats? this could cut your straw bill. I keep my horses at home so this may seem like a really dumb ? but as you pay for grass keep and it will be severely limited does the yard give you a hay allowance?
 
Sometimes you just have to take a chance. Like you I moved my horse to a new livery yard earlier this year and went from doing 5 miles each way to 10 miles each way but I went from dangerous road hacking to excellent off road hacking. We are lucky as there is not bitching at this yard (the first one ever!! - what is it with women and horses!!). The grazing isn't so good but its worth all the extra mileage for the safe hacking and my horse is so very happy there. It was a risk I took but it was a risk worth taking.

Our fields are used both summer and winter (24 hour turnout during the summer) but we all chip and in buy big round bales of hay which are put out in the field during the winter and we don't have any miserable horses as they are out and have stuff to eat.

If you aren't happy then your horse isn't. I learnt that the hard way.
 
It is hard isnt it - im in that dilema myself at the mo - I think the only advice I can give is go along a couple of times to the new yard and see how is feels....see what the people are like when you are there and if you have a good feel then I would move...
I think it sounds like you are getting down and fed up at your current place and maybe a change would be good....
At the same time it sounds like you get alot for your money at this new yard and as long as you are friendly but keep yourself to yourself I am sure you will get on great.
Im very private and only say hello to other liveries...It sounds hard but im not there to make friends - im there to ride and enjoy my horse...making friends can tie you into conversations and bitching so just stay clear....
good luck with it all I wish you were moving to the new yard im going to - you sound lovely
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The yard i am at is great, we are all diy and help each other out, i cant understand why if you are keeping your horse on a yard you wouldnt want to enjoy the social side too, i like chatting and making friends personally!

To the original question, i shouldnt worry too much if your horse cant go out all day, as TBH most of them only like a few hours out in winter and are more than happy to stay in, and if he cant go out one day then just make sure he is excercised that day, think of your extra fuel and time and money... There is no such thing as the perfect yard and it sounds like it is trying to get the balance right to me.
 
Well I'm just back from the other yard and I was really impressed - it's very small - only 5 or 6 other liveries, nice big internal stables, nice big sand and rubber mix floodlit schools with jumps. The fields are bigger and better than the ones at current yard and they actually have a proper rotation plan whereas at the moment Y/O just sticks them in wherever so all fields are trashed. He'll also get better turn out - out by 8/9 am and in at around 6pm (although earlier once it starts to get dark earlier but I can ask for him to be left out and I can bring him in). The fields all have proper electric fencing, there is a nice secure tack room/feed room and straw/hay barn. The scenery and hacking is amazing - you can go for long hack in the his or by the loch with barely any road work - sound like bliss! It would almost have been easier if it was a dive - now I've got a decision to make!

The main cons are -price although it's not that much dearer that I was at my last yard and when you take into account how much I'll have to spend on hay and straw at my current yard it's about even. The only other issue is distance - it's more than twice the distance - it's not the time that's an issue as I can literally turn up, groom and ride then go home but the cost - I only spend about £30 a month on petrol anyway as I only have a small car so this would up to about £60 which would be harder but managable plus I don't have to go up every night at this yard as he's effectively on full livery mon - fri - I just have to provide the feed and bedding.

Arghhh - what to do!!!
 
I moved yards and it was an hour longer journey and pony is now on assisted grass livery. It was a hard decision but it was the best one for my pony who requires 24/7 turnout all year as he does not like stabling.

He is a bit special needs in that he was bullied and needs to be in a small quiet group otherwise he can get defensive as he thinks he is going to get attacked and stands up for himself.

Moving yards was the best decision I could have made I now have a happy pony and that makes me happy. Due to the long journey I do not see him every day and that has taken some getting used to and I have to trust others to keep an eye on him.

I went back to view the new yard with a friend I trusted for a 2nd opinion and she said it seemed great for my ponies' needs. I then moved. I am planning to move house next year to be nearer pony though!

I would be concerned about lack of winter turnout at your current yard but then lots of yards have the same problem and it depends on what sort of horse you have and how happy they are to be stabled.

If your horse is on part livery and you are happy with the standard of care it does mean you do not need to go every day eg if you feel ill and could save on some fuel costs that way. Just because you are on part livery it does not mean you can't do things yourself if you feel like it so if you want to tidy up the bed etc you can do. The only thing you might want to question is how much hay/bedding they allocate to your horse.
 
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Is there nowhere closer? Is it 13 miles each way, if it is your fuel price is going to double ontop of your livery charges. Does your current yard have a school that could be used during the winter for the horses to stretch their legs. I suppose a few hours turnout is better than none and i would prefer a couple of hours a day rather than 1 day in, 1 out. Does your stable have rubber mats? this could cut your straw bill. I keep my horses at home so this may seem like a really dumb ? but as you pay for grass keep and it will be severely limited does the yard give you a hay allowance?

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I completely agree with this. I am at a really fab and cheap yard but its 10 miles away. Instead of paying 170€ /month for livery I am paying the most expensive in the area (I am paying 300€) and That's not seeing them everyday. Petrol prices are ridiculous. I am now trashing all facilities and looking for a cheap field to rent close by. It might seem good at the time but I think you could possibly regret it like I did.
Think hard about it and if you like it and can fund it go for it.
 
I think if it is that good the drive will not matter...
It is better than sitting at a yard which is local to you but you and your horse are depressed...
I bet you will hardly notice the petrol....prices are coming down too....
It is of course up to you - but you sound so happy in your message describing it I think it would be a shame to miss out just because it is a bit further away...
let us know how you do....
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Thanks for the comments everyone!

I'm still undecided - one minute I'm ready to move the next I've decided to stay - the good thing is there is no really rush or need to move quickly.

I'm going to go and re visit the possible new yard at the weekend to see what it's like at a busier time and to ask some more questions!
 
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