Should I move yards??

confusedasusual

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Hi all

First post here and what a subject to start on. I’m trying to decide whether to move yards or not.

I have been at my current DIY yard for about 3 years and have been extremely happy, all the people are lovely and get on very well but in the last 8 months the number of horses has over doubled (and ‘just one more’ is due to move in any day) to the point there isn’t enough stables or winter grazing (about 12 horses to 6 acres, eeck :-O ), summer grazing is big enough but floods in the winter. We have continuously asked how many more and what will you do in October to which we receive a shrug or ‘oh someone will leave before then’.

One of my horses has had laminitis so normally stays in the winter fields during summer which has never been an issue before but this year I have been told I can’t do that now. I either have to turn her out in the lush green grass or keep her stabled all summer. She is normally good at being stabled but it is starting to take its toll, she’s getting fizzy, loosing her manners walking past patches of grass and is a nightmare to ride at the moment. Muzzles come off in seconds so the summer field just isn’t an option for me.

The yard owners are lovely normally – not horsey although the son is and his horses funnily enough are allowed to stay on the winter paddocks nice and close to the stables and away from the herd which contains a very aggressive horse, the other horses come in daily with cuts and scratches. The yard owner refuses to ask anyone to leave because they are being paid on time every week so they are happy. They won’t section off the summer field nor will they allow us to do it (where I could a least mow my section!), we have been told the horses ‘need to learn to get on’.

So the turnout situation + aggressive horses + constantly changing rules are all adding up to be a big headache. There are no written contracts at all. The reason I am undecided is the owners are friends of sorts and have been a huge support to me over the last few years and I don’t want to throw it all back at them plus finding a yard with vacancies for 4 horses is almost impossible. The only suitable one I’ve found is great, my own 2 large paddocks to rotate between summer and winter, bigger stables, undercover school, off road hacking, automatic drinker system, cctv, no other livery’s just the owners horses and owner on site with no time restrictions BUT £100 more per month which will be a stretch during winter with the usual added costs.

What would people do in my situation?
 
It's difficult if you are friends with the YO, there are 2 possible compromises I can see that might help you to stay put,
(1) Could your mare be turned out with YOs son's horses? (2) Would they allow you to build a restricted grazing paddock in the summer field?

If neither of those is possible and providing your budget can take the stretch I would consider moving, it will be so much less stressful for you and your horses, and I think there won't be many opportunities to have all 4 in the same place
 
It's difficult if you are friends with the YO, there are 2 possible compromises I can see that might help you to stay put,
(1) Could your mare be turned out with YOs son's horses? (2) Would they allow you to build a restricted grazing paddock in the summer field?

If neither of those is possible and providing your budget can take the stretch I would consider moving, it will be so much less stressful for you and your horses, and I think there won't be many opportunities to have all 4 in the same place


This. And just to add that you do not have to leave your current yard on bad terms if you need choose to leave. Thank them for their help, leave on good terms and just explain you need more restricted grazing for your horses, hence the move. If they were THAT friendly with you, they would understand your situation and would try to resolve the issue, as well as not switching and swapping you from your usual routine (I know it happens when liveries come and go, but within reason!).
 
The fact that youre on here laying out a load of issues says youre not happy, if youre friends with the yo cant you explain to him/her why there is unrest, in the main due to the agressive horse and the injuries that are ongoing.
Since this has been brought to the yo's attention, if they fail to address it they might find themselves liable for injured horses, duty of care etc, especially if people are trying to re locate. due to this problem, can the agressive horse not be given their own area adjacent to the main field, or partitioned off in the field so while on their own theyre not alone ?
Id stop short at asking for special priviledges for your horse as that is only likely to set up ill feeling with other liveries.
If theres to be no discussion, then you may have no other option than to leave, if your horse ends up out of action because of the ongoing attacks youll wish you had left
 
It's always going to be difficult to rehouse 4 horses, but in your situation I'd be hightailing it out of there.

The other yard with vacancies, is that £100 per horse per month extra or £100 for all 4 extra? If the latter, I'd suck it up and think myself blessed that it's "only" £100. I guarantee that it's cheap for peace of mind.
 
If they were THAT friendly with you, they would understand your situation and would try to resolve the issue, as well as not switching and swapping you from your usual routine (I know it happens when liveries come and go, but within reason!).

I agree with this - Explain to the them that the current grazing situation just isn't working for you and your horses and you will have to look elsewhere if they can't come to a new arrangement. Make it clear that you really don't want to leave and have been really happy on the yard, but need to do what's best for your laminitic pony. If they aren't willing to help, I would be looking elsewhere but keeping on good terms with current yard in case you ever need to go back.
 
Leave, you spend far too much money on your horses and its your honby and happy time, you dont need the hassle of ignorant YO who are only interested in the pennies
 
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