Should I put my lad down? Please give your opinion.

lhotse said:
CPTrayes
My horse had the vet out daily, she went from being fine to being dead in less than a week. ..... I did everything I could for my horse, as did my vet. But she wasn't improving so I made the decision to have her PTS before she started dying.
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So what? I am sorry for you but this is not about YOU or about your horse. You are far too emotionally wound up about what happened to your horse to post rationally at the moment. You would be much better off to stop reading this thread and winding yourself up.
 
Trinity Fox said:
The first post is stiff legs and neck bloated belly colic etc vet's called in from all over the country but nobody can give an answer to what is wrong with this horse, in this case where the owner was calling out so many vet's do you not think they may have referred it to an equine hospital or maybe the dick or liverpool uni or liphook or somewhere similar.

Just out of interest to the op what vet's have you consulted.
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C O U N T Y ! ! !


Are you going to lend her the thousands of pounds sending him for a full vet hospital workup would cost? She has made a decision that I fully support to have him put down. So can you get off your 25 hand horse now?
 
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lhotse said:
CPTrayes
My horse had the vet out daily, she went from being fine to being dead in less than a week. How dare you write that. I did everything I could for my horse, as did my vet. But she wasn't improving so I made the decision to have her PTS before she started dying.
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I think you're just upset that you lost your horse. I completely understand that and you're well within your right to be upset, but I don't think you need to take it out on the OP :(
So sorry you lost your horse, I hope you feel happier soon.
 
I just HAD to come back. Right let's give you the short version - this is for the drama queens.

Horse is lame, bloated, stiff and isn't getting any better. Has seen more than one vet but op can't afford to have further investigation. From initial consultaions vets haven't been able to pinpoint or treat effectively, fair enough - this can happen. Pain relief tried and now removed due to cost involved, horse unhappy, owner has reached the point of pts and wants to confirm with others.

If this was a long standing member you would have said that given some of the contentious circumstances - unable to afford treatment etc, that she was doing right by her horse by 'securing his future'.
 
Billie1007 said:
I just HAD to come back. Right let's give you the short version - this is for the drama queens.

Horse is lame, bloated, stiff and isn't getting any better. Has seen more than one vet but op can't afford to have further investigation. From initial consultaions vets haven't been able to pinpoint or treat effectively, fair enough - this can happen. Pain relief tried and now removed due to cost involved, horse unhappy, owner has reached the point of pts and wants to confirm with others.

If this was a long standing member you would have said that given some of the contentious circumstances - unable to afford treatment etc, that she was doing right by her horse by 'securing his future'.
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Spot on.
 
I have to say I may have misread COUNTY but do we really think vet's do not send horses out of the COUNTY to be treated, it sounds as though the vet's in the COUNTY the op is in are not that good so I would send my horse out of that COUNTY to be treated.
 
I lost her nearly two years ago. I have a new horse now.
I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that all the vets in the 'county' wouldn't have a clue what is wrong with the horse.
That is all....
 
Just read through all this, so sorry to hear about those which have lost horses in the past.
Please guys lets be rational. Put yourself in her shoes - how would you feel if you were seeking advice about putting your ill horse to sleep and you instantly get called a "troll". Not nice. Maybe she could be seeking comfort?

If you think she is a troll, please don't point it out. Leave the thread. This is a sensitive subject.

I'd say PTS. Don't prolong his suffering any longer. Take comfort in that he will no longer be in pain.
God bless.
 
Trinity Fox said:
I would guess if the vet's in the county were unable to sort it, they probably would consider other vet's in the country.
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Are you offering to pay the referral fees?

And drive the horse across the country (only it won't travel, so she can't).

I wish my halo was as firmly attached as yours is.
 
lhotse said:
I lost her nearly two years ago. I have a new horse now.
I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that all the vets in the 'county' wouldn't have a clue what is wrong with the horse.
That is all....
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Then your faith in vets is greater than mine and your experience of them is less. And it isn't "all" - you've been downright offensive to the girl, which is even more inexcusable now we know how long ago you lost yours. Completely out of order IMO.
 
Billie1007 said:
I just HAD to come back. Right let's give you the short version - this is for the drama queens.

Horse is lame, bloated, stiff and isn't getting any better. Has seen more than one vet but op can't afford to have further investigation. From initial consultaions vets haven't been able to pinpoint or treat effectively, fair enough - this can happen. Pain relief tried and now removed due to cost involved, horse unhappy, owner has reached the point of pts and wants to confirm with others.

If this was a long standing member you would have said that given some of the contentious circumstances - unable to afford treatment etc, that she was doing right by her horse by 'securing his future'.
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This.
 
Ok, clearly in need of another short version.

OP has been able to afford initial vet consultaions but not investigations so without this it is unlikely any vet in the county, country, world, universe would be able to diagnose. Can't afford to diagnose, can't afford to treat - unhappy horse - PTS!

Some threads like this end with the poster being praised for their selflessness!
 
I used to be oh so trusting, and when a girl wrote on another board that her colt had broken his leg, I was so so supportive. I was still raw and grieving over the loss of my first Haflinger foal, an event that eventually put me into a full depression. I supported her in the board and via pm, because I thought she was in pain like I was.

A year or so later I found out that she was a troll, trying to garner sympathy to get in with the 'in crowd' I was so gutted when I found that out, I had shared so much of me, and tried to keep her spirits up, only to find that I had been talking to someone who didn't give a crap.

So yes, I'm now a nasty suspicious person and things I may have felt empathy for in the past now rings alarm bells. This person my be genuine, but if a horse is as bad as she describes, why would you join a forum and ask a load of strangers to help you decide?
 
BigBen - I undestand but if I needed an more impartial view then yes of course! Often hard to get views from those around you irl as there are other agendas.
 
Remember I was surrounded by people irl life telling me to ride my horse. Everyone here said no it was cruel. I took their advice and I think it is the right thing.
 
Big Ben said:
This person my be genuine, but if a horse is as bad as she describes, why would you join a forum and ask a load of strangers to help you decide?
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To get support at a very difficult time with a horrible decision to make. The same reason why so many people who are complete strangers to me campaigned to get my ban withdrawn when I was losing a horse back in May. It's what people do at times of stress, reach out for support. They aren't all trolls. And if she is, the way to deal with her is to ignore her, not attack her, because if she is a troll then that's what she wants.
 
can i just add (without being jumped on!) if you do decide to PTS, PLEASE consider giving bute now until he is pts, at least give him his last days pain free, bute does NOT cost that much :(
 
If he is failing to thrive through liver failure, bute may make him feel very ill. The horse should just be put to sleep asap, imo.
 
Really feel for you OP. I think it's the right time to pts.

So is every new member with hardly any posts suspected of being a troll now? This forum is turning into a bit of a joke How ridiculous to immediately scream "troll" at a new poster. As others have said if you suspect then just butt out you sad witches. (nothing worse than a bunch of women!)
 
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Re: Should I put my lad down? Please give your opinion.
Do you not understand what I am trying to explain to you! I'm not lying! My horse has been ill for over a year now but gradually been getting worse. A few vets have said they wanted to take him to an equine hospital but just the scans, transport and stabling while he was there would cost over £3000 and they weren't even sure if the x-rays would reveal any awnsers. So I said no. He has good and bad days and for the past month or so every day has been bad. I haven't called the vet to him because they always have the same results and now I'm thinking of putting his needs before my own. I posted this to find out about other peoples experiences with these things. I'm genuine not some low life idiot that spams the web! So just leave this thread alone so People can post there thoughts on MY situation instead of you idiots upsetting me further!!

This is direct quote from op, horse has been getting worse for a year.but a few vet's want to send to an equine hospital, I do not believe for a minute if you told your vet you were not going to send a horse in this condition to be treated or get a diagnosis that they would have let the situation go on this long. I have no problem with pts but a horse who is supposedly seeing lot's of vet's but being allowed to carry on with little treatment is not realistic. Firstly are we having scans or xrays as op refers to both and also say's the vet's always have the same results that is why they have not called them out over the last month, I would pts asap as horse is not being treated in a correct manner. And if the vet's always have the same results what exactly are the results.
 
What do you mean - a vet wouldn't let this go on -? What listlessness, stiffness, lameness and bloating, some days good and some days bad? What exactly do you think the vets can do about it if owner doesn't agree to or have money for investigation?
 
What exactly are you picturing here ladies? I don't see a half dead horse dragging its rear end around and surrounded by flies and vultures. I see a horse who is clearly suffering from something and experiencing a range of symptoms that get posted about on here everyday.
 
Trinity Fox said:
I do not believe for a minute if you told your vet you were not going to send a horse in this condition to be treated or get a diagnosis that they would have let the situation go on this long.
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In WHAT condition? You are reading more into the posts than you are being told.

We know only that:

the horse has had mild colic in the past - what horse has not?

the horse is stiff, some days worse than others - join the club, Ollie, millions are already members

the horse is thin with a big belly - we don't know how thin, or how big the belly, so since the vets don't know what's wrong with it without taking it to hospital, let's assume that it's not that severe, shall we?

The vets have not insisted on treating the horse or putting it down because it's not that bad, can't you see that possibility? Which is also why the poster needs some moral support making a decision to have him killed on the basis of quality of life, not veterinary emergency.
 
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OP, you have my sympathy, you obviously know youre horse and if he isnt comfortable and isnt likely to be again then the final gift we have as owners is the sleep. May he go swiftly across Rainbow Bridge and join all our other loyal friends there.

I personally dont care if you are a troll (ive recently lost a horse too), id much rather not risk the situation being that you arent, which I believe to be the case- pointing fingers is not anybodies responsibility, and please OP- if you are struggling with coming to terms with the fate of your boy, do not take these posts to heart.
 
A few vets have said they wanted to take him to an equine hospital.

This is a direct quote from op , so do you really think if several vet's had examined a horse who was becoming more and more ill, and the owner did not or could not afford to treat, although several vet's coming from all over the county as op has stated to treat a horse and none of them able to give a diagnosis, and then op stating they cannot afford to pay said vet's is very strange.

I am sure that every vet's practise in this county would have heard about this strange case none of them were able to give a diagnosis for and if it was beyond several vet's in the county would have referred it to an equine hospital regardless of the op's financial situation.
 
JordannaLouise said:
Yes he has been on two sachets per day in the past. They did make a difference but the cost was getting to much and my boy has been bad for a while now so posting on here was my way of giving myself reassurance I was doing the right thing as most my family are not 'horsey' people and thank you for such an honest reply
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cptrayes said:
If he is failing to thrive through liver failure, bute may make him feel very ill. The horse should just be put to sleep asap, imo.
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The bute apparently DID make a difference though!!
 
TrinityFox - seriously what can't you understand. The vet can't diagnose because the vet hasn't done any investigation...... Nothing fishy about that - you are just determined to turn the point into something else!
 
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