Should i save her?

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Theres a poor little grey pony on yard who my heart just goes out to!

She has been up for sale but had no interest which may be because the condition she is in. The owner has stopped looking after her as they just want to get rid of her and get new horse.

Her coat is sticky and filthy! She has a slash on her leg which hasnt been treated! She couldnt walk yesterday and owner didnt get vet out or nothing! Her hoofs are really over grown!

They brought her for £300 and i just want to care for her and sort her out and find her a nice home. She looks so unhappy and it is so unfair on her. The old owners use to make her look so beautiful but with what she is looking like now you wouldnt believe it was the same horse.

I know not really my job to sort her out but i dont like seeing her how she is! I keep thinking could rug her up in winter and stick her out with her, sort her out. Get little brother to ride her to get her back sound for riding and then find her a lovely home or loan her out.
 
Contact the RSPCA or IPLH or similar. Buying her will just give them money to go and get themselves a another horse to neglect. A visit from a animal cruelty charity may be the kick up the backside they need, or they may even take her away.
 
welfare case im afraid they need reporting the same will only happen to any other equine they go ahead and purchase with cash anybody gives them for it.

If you dont want to report them then feel free to pm me with details and i will do it on your behalf.
 
If you think that you can afford to help her, and that once she is back on form that you could sell/loan her then I dont see why not.

There is always the possibility of contacting one of the welfare charities, but that sometimes can cause more problems then it is worth on a yard if there is another way out.

I moved a horse of mine to a yard some time ago, there was a welfare case there at the time - tough one because the pony was well looked after but in pain due to an injury not healing properly. A couple of weeks after I moved there the RSPCA came up having been tipped off and a court case started, resulting in the police attending with a vet and the pony being PTS. As I had moved there at the time the RSPCA turned up - I was the 'obvious suspect' and as a result was treated badly. I still dont know who it actually was who reported them, but I wish they had been brave enough to say it was them as my life was made pretty tough as a result.
 
If they are not asking for a lot of money, and you have the time and the money to do it - why not? You obviously know a bit about the pony and have seen it in better times and know it can be restored.
If you see her as a project, (as many people buy horses as project on this forum it seems), I cannot see there is much difference.
Just because she has a horrible owner now and is is a sorry state doesn't mean you should just overlook her.
What's wrong with rescuing something anyway.
The RSPCA and ILPH are not always able to help or are even prepared to in every case.
Do what your heart tells you - I would.
 
there is nothing wrong with helping a pony but by buying it your handing money over to neglectful owners who will go buy something else and ruin that too and mistreat it.It is best to report them even if you want to buy it anyway people like this need to be stopped.

And to the person who said the ILPH are not very willing to do anything,you could not be more wrong i have reported neglect to them on 2 different horses and both were much better after they had visited and given the owners a scare.
 
thats sad you had the finger pointed at you the person who did it should have fessed up to clear your name.

I reported a girl and her mum who bought a pony from my friend and within 2 weeks it was a nutcase skinny,had lumps all over its back from her riding him 5 hours a day.Called vets out for her was told needed 2 months off work in hand walks light lunging only,1 week later she was jumping him.
We ended up buying him back in the end as she had ruined him and could not even get tack on him.He turned so quick due to her neglect and he belonged to a 7yr old disabled girl before he was sold to her and within 2 days of going back to my friend he was fine again.

And they did the first visit fingers were pointed to one of the girls who used to ride for us and now i dont even like this girl at all but i actually fessed upto the owners and YO and said look it was me im not having fingers pointed at wrong people no matter how much i dont like them.I said to them i was happy that i had done the right thing and i would do it again no questions asked,i can remember it clear as day i was having a row on the phone with the YO while i was having contractions and i had james the next morning lol.
 
She is obviously a welfare case and should be reported. You have no idea of the costs involved in her treatment, it may run up a huge bill. By reporting her you will be doing the right thing by her, and by any other horses unfortunate enough to be owned by these people.
 
Thanks for replies...

My heart is telling me to have her and sort her out but that may also be because of the fact that most nights i have ended up giving her loads of fuss and lots of hay. Though Sooty your right the costs of treatment could be alot which is the last thing i really need.

With the way the yard is at the moment my only worry is that i may get kicked of for interferring. They have another horse which the man looks after who is in top condition but the older girl has been looking after the pony but doesnt seem to be taking care of her. She isnt insured either which i think may be why they are putting everything off which isnt good i know because when she gets that bad that they have no choice but to call a vet the bill will be terrible.

They are very new to horses but the older girl always seems to know whats best. I explained to her yesterday how the pony needed looking over and she ignored me and just moaned about the fact no one had turned her out yesterday...bearing in mind the pony couldnt walk!!!
 
see this is what annoys me i think anyone wanting to buy a horse should have to have at least a stage 1 certificate so they know how to care for one correctly even just the basics such as minor ailments,signs of colic etc.
 
Some people buy horses having the promise of others that they will help them out!

Though people who arent experienced usually go to proper livery yards where help is given.

I think the problem is that with horses becoming more and more popular so many people want them even if they cant really afford them. So with no experience they go onto a DIY yard and look after the horses themselves without really knowing whats best to do. This is fine if the owners are not too proud to expect advice and help but when they think the know whats best and the horse is loosing condition something should really be said.

Problem is YO is seriously ill and i dont want to stress her phoning her up letting her know of my concerns for the horse. I have thought i maybe talking to the girl and telling her to get her act together in the nicest way out.
 
but then why rely on a ''promise'' that people will help you out?

i honestly think people shoul have to have at least a bhs stage 1 cetificate to own a horse.
 
I have found on some yards that if stables are free some people lure people onto yard with false promises.

On yard i am on now there is has been quite a few people who have come onto the yard with first horse and no experience what so ever of handling horses.

I think the YO use to help out alot as most the people get on fine but those who have newly come onto the yard arent getting the help they need because they YO has become seriously ill and isnt looking like will get better. With her not being up here to watch over thoses who arent experienced some people are just being lazy and not giving the horses the care they need.
 
my friend has just started up her own livery yard on a place she has just got and im dreading it as i will be working there once my maternity is up but its diy mainly through summer but will most likely be FULL during winter.
But im lucky in the respect that i dont hang fire if i think soemone is not caring for a horse right i will tell them,if needs be remove them from the yard or even report them.

Hopefully a good few of our friends are going to be moving onto the yard though which would be nice as they are all capable and we all do holiday watch for each other and alternate t/o etc.
 
Your friend is so lucky i would love my own yard! Though if my plans for the next 10 years work out the who knows what the future may hold.

I have noticed very much how many people dont seem to be as keen in the winter to do DIY as they are in the summer. With me i dont mind as i love being able to give Buddy all the attention he needs. But i do think some people would rather someone else froze to death doing the horses rather than them on those very cold days.

I never really had the need much to butt in before but i dont like horses not being cared for. I do prefer when people seek my help though rather than feeling like im interferring. I had another lady the other day come and ask me whether i could help her out a bit with her new pony which i dont mind as feel quite happy to be able to help.

But with this pony i dont know whether to have a word with owners saying that i will report them if they dont sort her out so at least they know how concerned i am.
 
im very much the same prefere the hard work any weather over someone doing it for me and paying through the nose for it.

I also pretty much keep my ''advice'' to myself unless im asked or i feel butting in is required.

I would just report them and dont act any different around them so they dont clock on just dont tell them worst they can do is point the finger and you can act shocked at the accusation
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If the pony could be turned around, isn't too old and isn't too small, then I'd offer her a couple of hundred quid. In the past I've bought a few horses in far worse conditions for less money; I simply say, sell to me at such and such a price or I will call the SPCA; generally does the trick. £200 is not exactly going to go far in them purchasing another horse, so I don't think in this case it makes a whole lot of difference, someone needs to take over and whether it's you or the rescue centres, doesn't really matter. Ignorant private single horse owners are one thing; dodgy dealers are quite another, and I think there is a distinction to be made here.
 
Id say save her. Trouble with the RSPCA , is What will happen to the pony? Theyll be long drawn out court cases et al... and They Could destroy her for nothing.
 
I would save her as the RSPCA are useless and if they don't take then what will happen to the pony. Every Horse/Pony deserves a chance and you might as well buy it as your feeding it and looking after it and at least you will know you will look after it. I would have bought it the second i saw the state it was in. I hate seeing horses in pain and i will do anything to help the animal. You will know what to dox
 
I would get my vet to have a look at her first to see what the costs involved would be, and then detract that from what the owners want for her (or from the £300 they originally paid).

If I had the money and the time I would def do it. I'm sure that if you looked after her for 6 months or so and got her fit then she would be worth much more next summer.
 
Simply contact the ILPH (International League for the Protection of Horses UK Welfare Hotline on 08000 480180
www.ilph.org

They will send an inspector out to investigate. (Don't worry as most their inspectors are ex-mounted police officers so have a full understanding of horses and people).
 
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