Should I tell the YO?

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Hi everyone. I am more of a lurker than a poster, but I have a bit of a dilemma.

I am new in the world of horses so not sure really what the norm is or if I am being silly.

I have recently got my first horse and had it at a lovely little yard, but the grazing was poor and there were a few other little things that annoyed me.

While I was there, there was a woman who had a sharer. The sharer was a 12 year old girl. She was a real spoilt brat and her mum was a 2 faced gossip. I took an instant dislike to them, when on the first day of them sharing the horse, I found the girl using some brushes from my grooming kit. I took them off the wall where she was and put them away. Then her mum came marching over to me and accused me of stealing her daughters brushes! I pointed out she had taken then from my grooming kit but she was adamant they were her daughters (I spent a lot of money on a personalised grooming kit for my first ned) so I took them out of my grooming bag and showed her they were mine. She muttered something under her breath and walked off. I then heard her in the hay barn slagging me off. More of my stuff went missing over the coming week and I got sick of hearing the girls mum bitching about everyone and everything. So I left and found a lovely little private yard down the road.

Myself and pony have settled very well there. Its great, only YO and 2 other liveries and its so laid back and friendly. You can leave your stuff out and nobody touches it, I love it!

One of the 2 liveries is moving away for work and taking her horses with her, so there are some livery spaces. I was happily lunging in he school last night when the thieving girl and her parents arrived to look around the yard! It seems the girl has been bought her own horse and the livery where she is doesnt have sufficient grazing. While in the school I watched the girls dad wander off into my pony's stable and come out a minute later doing up his flies!!!!!

Anyway, it seems they are coming on Saturday. I really am not happy about it. YO said they had mentioned they knew me and I just said we met briefly. Do I tell YO I am not happy? I will now have to lock up all my stuff as she cant keep her hands to herself! Feeling a little down about it all as I have everything set up how I like now, and its all going to have to change :(
 
I would. I'd explain that you left the previous yard because of it. I doubt the YO would want the harmony of the small friendly yard you're on ruined!
 
That's such a shame I have encountered some horsey people that feel the world owes them everything. I wouldn't mention it full on to the YO as you might not come across well but if they are that bad and yard is small and friendly I'm sure YO will see it for herself!
 
Most definitely say something straight away, before they arrive on the yard. I would tell the yard owner as you have told us, explain that you love the yard and feel that as everyone gets on so well you just wanted her to be aware of this potential conflict before any problems arise and explain that although you are happy to give this girl a chance, you were concerned that as a family their attitude to personal property, space and decency hasn't changed that much as you saw dad leaving your stable doing up his flies, so had presumably used this as a toilet area which you don't appreciate (personally I'd have already done my nut and challenged him along the lines of do you want some loo roll on his wall for next time you get caught short but then again I can be a tad less than subtle!). After that I would make sure yard owner sees you/is aware of the fact that all of your equipment is now locked up in tack chests and anything that cannot be locked up is clearly marked (feed and water buckets, wheelbarrow, fork and brush etc...) and make sure that you do exactly that. I'm now on a much nicer yard but still have the sweeping brush adorned with the words "If you borrow me, put me back. If you break me, replace me. If not, DO NOT USE" adorned in permanent marker!!!
 
Oh god yes, definitely tell them. If I was your YO I would be eternally grateful to you for warning me how difficult they are. The last thing she will want is people coming who cause trouble. Just give her a quick summary of the issues you had with them and explain that you don't want to cause trouble but think she ought to know. I would also tell her they are the reason you left your old yard.

Good luck, hope they don't come and spoil your nice peaceful yard!
 
I've got the afternoon off to ride so I will chat to her later. I dont want to come across as a cow, but I also dont want any problems. I think I'll lock my stuff away and see what happens. My pony has a stable on the completely opposite side of the yard, so there is no reason for her to ever go near my stuff at all. I just hope she isn't a hay thief too...
 
I was in a similar position a few years back. On my first yard we had a big tack theft, courtesy of a livery who had been given his marching orders for dealing horses in breach of the yard rules. He came back a week later and stole 5 saddles amongst other things, including mine (I was doubly heartbroken as I'd only had it 9 weeks and I'd bought it using money my grandmother had left me). We subsequently found out he'd been on just about every yard in the area and several others had been robbed after he'd left. We knew anyway he had been in prison for unrelated things as he had told us. Roll on a 10 years and I'd moved yards. Imagine my horror when I saw the YO showing a couple round - yes, it was him. I had a nasty feeling that if I'd said anything to the YO I would have been shown the door but I made damn sure I warned ALL the other liveries. As it turned out he and the partner (business partners only) were dealing horses and had been on lots of local yards then been kicked off for owing hundreds in rent and the same thing happened again, so he was out of my hair.
 
If you're worried about coming across as a cow you could just suggest she finds out a bit more about them before letting them on the yard, for example say you are aware of a few things which might concern her. That way at least you have tipped her off without being too full on. The horsey world is small and once she's been warned it won't be difficult for her to do a bit of digging and find out their history for herself.
 
as a yard owner i would want to know especially as it will probably mean she will lose you as a livery and be stuck with them x
 
I share a big lock up with the other livery, and then I have a lockable box inside that and only myself and other livery have keys. My tools are in the hay barn next to my hay so I might move them to my stable (pony lives out)

As its the girls first horse (she has only had it a couple of weeks) I doubt very much she will have a full set of her own things as I know she was using everybody elses stuff. I have bright yellow buckets and hay nets so I can find them in the field, so Ill mark all of those with horses name. Just seems really petty :( x
 
yes I would calmly tell the YOer what happened and about the peeing in your stable but I would not mentain it to anyone else ATM.
And straight away makes sure all yout stuff is well marked and stored if they come anything like borrowing your stuff nip it in the bud staight away.
Bad luck but that's life.
 
Yes, I would most definitely tell y/o about it. I'm on a small yard and I KNOW my y/o would want to know as much as possible (good or bad) about potential liveries before they turned up.

I'm sure your y/o wouldn't want the harmony of the place upset by one undesirable and her undesirable family - tell her about him peeing in your stable if I were you too - YUCK!

Also there is the issue of the girl being a minor and I personally wouldn't want the 'responsibility' of having to keep an eye on someone elses kid while I was tending to my horse - whether the parents are present or not. Tell her about all your concerns, including thieving incidents but try to stick to the facts and tell her that you're really uncomfortable about having such a person on the yard and that it was in fact her that was the reason for leaving your last yard.
 
Tinks81 said:
as a yard owner i would want to know especially as it will probably mean she will lose you as a livery and be stuck with them x
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Ditto this. As a YO too I'd definately want to know. The last thing anyone wants is disharmony on the yard; plus a guy basically who's using other people's stables as a latrine.

Tell your YO. Do it quickly.
 
I am a yard owner and would be really miffed if one of my liveries knew something bad about a livery that was starting on my yard and didn't tell me. It only takes one bad apple...
 
Do say something to the YO so the YO can make up her own mind. Generally, yards that are nice places to be, don't knowingly take on troublesome liveries, they'd rather have an empty box.
Its not worth the hassle.
 
Say something :) Yard owners don't in general like having trouble making light fingered people in their back gardens, especially if they upset the other clients. You don't have to be mean, just tell her you're disappointed the other lady is coming and you've had difficulties with her in the past.
 
I def would tell YO and other liveries too. We has a thieving little madam on our yard not so long ago and despite approaching her mum a couple of times (who just effed and jeffed at me) nothing changed, so I told the YO and made him aware of the issues. Needless to say she didn't last very long on the yard
 
Most yard owners welcome input on new liveries. It is helpful them to have recommendations - good or bad - up front so if any decisions need to be made they can do it before the potential new livery arrives.

I would tell your YO but don't go in all guns blazing. Just tell her the facts and let her make her own mind up.
 
I would say something but make sure it doesn't sound like you're trying to tell her how to run her yard. Maybe say you recognise it's her decision but you feel she needs the facts before it's too late. You don't want it to become a choice between the two of you.
 
From what I can gather, the girl wasnt too friendly with the lady who owned the share horse either. The horse went lame and she wasnt allowed to ride, so started looking elsewhere. Then she got the new horse and was offered a stable at the yard with the share horse but she declined. (previous YO told me this) She went to another local yard less that 2 weeks ago and is looking to move again. I hope it isnt a bad sign! I am heading up there now so ill keep you all posted.

I am glad it isnt just me being a bit funny about it, which is a relief!
 
Wagtail said:
I do wonder if the lack of grazing is the real reason these people are moving, or if, in fact they have been pushed?
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Exactly! I would tell your YO as nightmare liveries can be difficult to shift and can damage a yard's reputation, never mind the stress they will cause your YO. We had a livery that let her children use other people's stables as a toilet (number 2, lovely) despite the fact we have two toilets on our yard. She didn't last long!
 
oh how did it go?!!


definately tell the YO!!!


last thing you need is a knowing nutter coming onto the yard!!!

id go mental if someone used my stuff and denied it!!! dont mind at all people using my tools/barrow etc.....but as long as they are put back!

i wouldnt use anyones grooming brushes ew :/
 
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