Should racing two year olds be banned?

I've read through the whole thread and would like to pick up or elaborate on a variety of points, in no particular order, to give a little more context of the current position of this multi-million pound industry.

As others have said, the only way a ban on 2yo racing would work would be if it were a worldwide ban. The Flat racing programme, at top (Group) level does not exist in isolation country-by-country but is a joined-up effort across Europe - the European Pattern - which at the end of the season also feeds into the US Breeders Cup festival. Two-year-old races are woven into the programme of races and some of them have a tradition going back around 200 years. It would take a huge cultural and economical shift to change this. Racing authorities do take immaturity into account in a limited way, as in the early part of the season 2yos are only allowed to race over five furlongs, then as the season goes on into summer and autumn the distance over which 2yos are allowed to race gradually increases.

Again, as mentioned, the sport is becoming ever-more dominated by early speed and sprinter/milers are considered the commercial pinnacle of those breeding to make a profit. There are still some owner-breeders who aim their horses at the more traditional big prizes such as the Derby and King George, but they are a dying breed. Frankel for example didn't run until the middle of August in his 2yo year and if he had shown more stamina and less pure speed, he would have run in the Derby like his half-brother Bullet Train did a year earlier.

This emphasis on speed and relying on it to make a fast buck (no pun intended) reflects the ever-increasing "now, more, quicker" mentality of society generally. In one respect it has been a good thing that racing has shed some of its 'elitist' tag and opened up ownership to syndicates and clubs, but a proportion of the newer owners are people who are ignorant of horses, their physical fragility and unpredictability come into ownership and want results, or at the very least to see their horse on their track and have their day in the sun with their owners' badges, as fast as possible. They don't always have the patience to wait - keeping a horse in training is an expensive business, and it costs just as much to keep an untalented one as it does a star, so they want to see a return ASAP, and it's not because they're cruel or unfeeling, it's because they don't know or understand any better. In today's financial climate more than ever, it's very difficult for any trainer below the top tier to make a living, never mind a profit, and when they're between the rock of pushing a young horse on a little faster than they would like, or the hard place of saying "no" to the owner's pressure and facing those horses being removed and sent to another trainer, when that might be the difference between breaking even and going under (and so all the other horses facing an uncertain future, the staff being made redundant, creditors - feed merchants, vets, farrier etc going unpaid) you can see why it will often end in the horse being pushed.

We are seeing this same impatience filtering into jump racing now too - the days of the traditional Denman-type NH store horse are dying, because owners are reluctant to lose a couple of extra years paying for their horses to stuff themselves in a field slowly maturing when they can buy a precocious, lighter-built 4yo from France with proven form in 3yo jumps races and have it on the track within a few weeks of it joining its new trainer.

Unfortunately it's true to say that in the vast, vast majority of cases the priorities of breeders when choosing mates for their mares are pedigree and performance. Conformation comes a poor third (if it is considered at all) and so if a colt has somehow been able to overcome bad conformation, say poor forelegs, and win a couple of those decent sprint/mile races, and he happens to be from a fashionable - i.e. popular at the sales - sire line, then he is going to be very popular with mare owners regardless of his dodgy legs, and so he goes on to sire goodness-knows-how-many foals who will inherit his poorly-conformed limbs and so be even more prone to breaking down. Multiply this enough times by enough undesirable characteristics and you get a breed that is getting faster but inherently weaker.

Someone mentioned betting, querying the link between betting and racing. A big proportion of racing's funding comes from a tax on bookmakers, called the Levy. In simplistic terms, every bet on a horse race placed in a betting shop contributes to the bookmaker's profits, and a percentage of those profits are skimmed off by the Horserace Betting Levy Board every year. This money, although decreasing because of the rise of online betting exchanges and the competition for gamblers' money from other sports (only racing bets placed in betting shops contribute to the Levy) amounts to tens of millions each year and the majority of it goes towards prize money. A smaller proportion also goes towards funding equine research and the Rare Breeds Trust, so indirectly other horses benefit from this money also. However, I'm sure you can see why it's in racing's own interests to maximise betting turnover and so it would be unlikely that any sort of ban on betting on 2yo races would ever be forthcoming.

There have been a lot of (in some case spurious) parallels drawn between leisure / riding club horses and racehorses but in reality, racehorses are working animals. In fact it could be argued that they and police horses are the last working animals left in the UK. For trainers, a big proportion of breeders, stable staff, suppliers, racecourse managers, racing administrators etc this is a business, not a hobby, and the livelihoods of tens of thousands of people rely on racing, hence the pressure for quick results. The majority of trainers are decent people who care about the horses in their yard and try to do their best by them but are not, generally, sentimental or anthropormorphic about them. The horses are there to do a job and if they can't or won't do it or are not physically up to it, they are moved on - that might be within racing, or outside it. Of course there are always the odd unscrupulous bad apples as there is in any walk of life, and when evidence comes to light to prove unsavoury practices, their licence to train (all trainers have to be licenced, which includes an inspection of their facilities) is revoked.
 
Thanks for the insight BigBucks...

I have a question for you... it's about older horses on trainers yards, it seems the emphasis on the money is on the 2yo's but how does the income compare between the youngsters and the "veterans"?

I'm wondering why so much is placed on big risk money such as the 2yo classes and not the older ones?
 
I couldn’t give a breakdown split because it will vary from trainer to trainer but to be honest, it’s not necessarily that there’s more financial emphasis put on 2yos per se – there are some valuable 2yo races but not as many top races as there are for older horses – it’s more about the impatience I mentioned earlier, the pressure to find out quickly whether the new batch of youngsters will justify their place in the yard for the next couple of seasons and if not moving them on quickly to make room for some that will; also it’s about making the most of opportunities before the horse goes into handicaps as a 3yo+. For example, many trainers will have a decent 2yo capable of winning at least a couple of races and picking up some prize money, but that won’t quite be up to the level of running in the Classics or Group races as an older horse. The only races for that horse as a 3yo+ are handicaps and because it showed decent form as a 2yo, it will be given a handicap weight that means it may struggle to win as a 3yo against more lightly-weighted horses who perhaps weren’t as precocious and didn’t show as good form as a juvenile.

Because the difference in growth rates levels out as horses mature, the greatest opportunity to exploit that difference is when a horse is younger – so a trainer with a faster-maturing, precocious 2yo is going to run it while it has an advantage over its peers, in the hope of winning some prize money/proving to other racing folk and especially wannabe owners that they can train winners/enhance the pedigree thus making relatives to that horse more valuable when they go to the sales in turn.

This doesn’t apply to all trainers but generally it’s the very top tier – the Sir Henry Cecils and Sir Michael Stoutes, who are still patronised in large numbers by the owner-breeders who are looking for Derby glory and who can afford to be patient with their 2yos, who don’t have to consider this.

The obvious counter-argument is that if there were no 2yo racing then no horse would start its 3yo career at a disadvantage, handicap-wise, and I don’t disagree, but you can see how the current structure of racing would need unpicking at every level to accommodate this and when there’s currently MORE emphasis on early results, not less, that isn’t going to happen for a long time.
 
I really don't agree with it, and i really wish something could be done but as i see it any movement toward change is an awful long way off.

I really think my horse would have made a good 4/5 year old but just wasn't given the chance, He was born in May and was a very tiny 2yo and just didn't have the stamina. I really think it's far too young.
 
I couldn’t give a breakdown split because it will vary from trainer to trainer but to be honest, it’s not necessarily that there’s more financial emphasis put on 2yos per se – there are some valuable 2yo races but not as many top races as there are for older horses – it’s more about the impatience I mentioned earlier, the pressure to find out quickly whether the new batch of youngsters will justify their place in the yard for the next couple of seasons and if not moving them on quickly to make room for some that will; also it’s about making the most of opportunities before the horse goes into handicaps as a 3yo+. For example, many trainers will have a decent 2yo capable of winning at least a couple of races and picking up some prize money, but that won’t quite be up to the level of running in the Classics or Group races as an older horse. The only races for that horse as a 3yo+ are handicaps and because it showed decent form as a 2yo, it will be given a handicap weight that means it may struggle to win as a 3yo against more lightly-weighted horses who perhaps weren’t as precocious and didn’t show as good form as a juvenile.

Because the difference in growth rates levels out as horses mature, the greatest opportunity to exploit that difference is when a horse is younger – so a trainer with a faster-maturing, precocious 2yo is going to run it while it has an advantage over its peers, in the hope of winning some prize money/proving to other racing folk and especially wannabe owners that they can train winners/enhance the pedigree thus making relatives to that horse more valuable when they go to the sales in turn.

This doesn’t apply to all trainers but generally it’s the very top tier – the Sir Henry Cecils and Sir Michael Stoutes, who are still patronised in large numbers by the owner-breeders who are looking for Derby glory and who can afford to be patient with their 2yos, who don’t have to consider this.

The obvious counter-argument is that if there were no 2yo racing then no horse would start its 3yo career at a disadvantage, handicap-wise, and I don’t disagree, but you can see how the current structure of racing would need unpicking at every level to accommodate this and when there’s currently MORE emphasis on early results, not less, that isn’t going to happen for a long time.

Certainly are big ol' knots to unpick... Now that you've put it into more perspective, it does seem utterly bonkers.

Why anyone would put themselves under so much pressure is beyond me - the rewards must be worth it clearly!
 
I researched this last year and there is a long thread on it somewhere. The BVA advised their members in writing that firing is, in their view, never justified as a clinical treatment, and that any member choosing to do it lays themselves open to prosecution under the Animal Welfare act.

That's not a ban, no, but it's as close as you can get to one.

The BVA are simply hanging fire until some other group prosecute one of their own members, at which point they will stand in court and point to their written advice that the practice is not clinically justified and the vet will be found guilty and a ban will be in place.

Thanks for clearing that up. So it isn't, but it is. Gotcha.

I just went and worked out how long it has been since I had much to do with racing. I feel very old.:o
 
hear hear BigBucks - someone with some actual knowledge about the industry!

I could write essays on the topic, but since I am actually meant to be writing an essay on the effects of the recession on the british horseracing industry, I don't really have the time ;)

So, as much as I don't think that racing 2yos is the best thing to be doing, there are absolutely HUGE economic impact that trying to ban 2yo racing would have. I would go as far as to say that it would pretty much kill the british flat racing industry.

We are in a very fragile position at the moment with terrible average returns to owners who invest large amounts of money in keeping their horses in training. We are constantly at risk of losing owners to countries such as america, australia, france, even turkey, whose prize money returns are on average much closer to the costs of keeping a horse in training. Ban 2yo racing in Britain, but not elsewhere in the world, and we would lose vast amounts of owners to other countries.

I have had a lot of involvement with race horses over the last 5 years or so, I have broken in and ridden plenty of 2yos - the majority of whom have made it to the track without any kind of catastrophic injury. The only 2 horses I have known personally in training who have suffered broken legs on the gallops were actually horses that were broken in much later (at 4) - I know its purely anecdotal evidence, but I do believe that most trainers are very capable of slowly and gradually increasing a horses work to promote strength and development.

Education of owners is the key really - if owners don't want to run their horses at 2, then the problem is partially solved. Banning punters from betting on 2yo races is a lunatic idea - the racing industry is nearly completely funded by betting through the levy. The levy is not as high as it should be due to the growth of online betting (offshore) the last thing we need is a dramatic drop in the levy. That directly equates to another drop in prize money, which directly results in less owners, less horses, and therefore less trainers, less jobs and so on.
 
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