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We are new to showing, am I missing something.

We have been to three shows this year each time we have been placed, but we get the same comment, he will look so good when he fills out, when he is older. He has good conformation, oh and the other one he is so well behaved.

We are never asked what breed he is, and I feel this is where our problem is he is dun and he is not a highland or a fjord, he is a holstein cross so really he will never fill out to fit that dun stereotype

Now call me stupid, but these are youngstock classes he is 13 months old, yes he is very well behaved



what am I missing
 
Every judge has there own likes and in youngster classes they tend to pick the ones they like. Thats just showing for you, some judges will like your youngster other ones will not. A judge said my youngster was not up to showing this was local show, week later she came 2nd at county show in large class.

Just continue to show him as its great way to get them out and ask judge what if anything you could do better.
 
Basically what i am asking is why is he being placed down the line against overweight two year olds, when the judges dont have a bad word to say about him, only that he needs to fill out more and grow older. As it is a youngstock class the judge should be looking at the conformation etc not what weight he is carrying.

I currently have three 13 month olds, my frieasian was placed higher than my holstein cross, because he breed is heavier and he looks older.

These are youngstock classes, christ if I took my warmblood I think they may call the rspca on me.
 
Generally in youngstock classes I have found the 3 year olds place higher than the yearlings because they look more mature and less gangly. As he matures he should chunk a bit naturally - that's what I'm waiting for Titch to do!
 
fihunt said:
Generally in youngstock classes I have found the 3 year olds place higher than the yearlings because they look more mature and less gangly. As he matures he should chunk a bit naturally - that's what I'm waiting for Titch to do!
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Showing really makes me laugh - you just NEVER know how you well you will do! :rolleyes: Last year I took my coloured showing as a yearling and he's been out a couple of times this year. Some shows he was well placed, and others, he just wasn't the judges cup of tea. :rolleyes: ;)

Even though I have entered him into a youngster class, you can guarantee the judge will comment how leggy/gangerly he is, and how he will look nicer when he's filled out in years to come. I smile sweetly, but would love to say, "yes he is very leggy, but that is due to him being a youngster, hence the reason why I enetered him in a youngster class!!" :D xx :)
 
I think you are missing nothing.
I'm going to be shot down for this but my answer is in imo that in showing they like them fat, we even joke about the best condition class being the fat class. Unfortunatley the old school showing is still alive and they look for the filled out youngstock. We have very fit youngstock that have done well in the BEF Futurity that have been placed at the bottom due to not being welsh and dishing as the judge liked - and yes I have asked the same question.
Its not suprising that people choose where they show according to what judge there is judging. Therefore we take it at face value and now don't go if we know the judge doesn't like a riding horse type and only likes welshies or cobs - in our area, coloured, cobs or welshies will always win with certain judges, wrong, but we accept and don't waste our money. I actually think that because our filly was given 8.5 for her walk during her last year gradings, that I don't have problem with her, its just she is different to the "local" type.
btw, she is has won championship classes and we havent taken her out locally much as a 3 year old because I see it as a waste of time, apart from her education.

My advice is - Use it as what it is, education, otherwise choose carefully where you go, cynical I know but will save you lots of time and money.
 
I know exactly what you mean. I have only shown my yearling once so far this year, but have a few other outings coming up, and am also new to showing. It's so hard to know exactly how to present yearlings and youngstock as the etiquette seems to be different everywhere you go, and like several people have said judges have types they prefer which makes it even harder. At the show I went to it was clear the judge didn't like the colouring of my horse as there was another of similar colouring which also didn't get a look in - the class was rather big but you could tell the judge wasn't interested.
Being a TB my yearling is a different shape to quite a lot of the other youngsters and maybe not typical of the type being looked for, but I have decided that his education is more important than the rosettes - although they are a bonus! It is difficult when judges say they will look better in the future because as you say they are in a youngster class so it should be judged on how they are now not what they might be. Having said that at least the judges are offering comments - because of the class size, the judge didn't talk to those of us that were not placed and we had no opportunity to ask for comments as it was the first class in the ring so there was no time. I do think it is important to get as many comments as possible to help you improve for next time.
Well done for your success to date, I hope it continues and you move up the line soon :-)
 
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