Showjumping - booting out at fences??

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Hi, i have owned my 16.2 Belgium Warmblood for 5 months now. I brought him to compete and hopefully BSJA, he is green but shows scope over 1.10m.
When i first brought him ever 1 in 30 jumps you would notice him kick out at the fence. However he has got increasingly worse recently. The toehr day i jump schooled him and he was kicking out at every single fence in air. This has got so bad ot the point that he is kicking out and landing and continousl bucking (i have fallen off him already, as he bucks so high) it appears ot be a reaction to the fence. He does it over any style fence. His teeth/back/tack are all fine.
Any ideas?
Thanks Sam
 
Nope does it over every single fence. When he intially came home we noticed it an odd two times, now its every style of grids, bounces, combinations etc. It has now got worse where he lands and carries on bucking and kicking out?? No bad expereinces when with me, rarely takes a rail he is very careful and have taken his jump schoolin very slowly under instruction
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does he do it when he is loosed jumped?... to me bucking or kicking out like that would indicate some soreness or tension in the back...a change of saddle maybe?... is he padded up, maybe try a half sheepskin?... I think I would loose school and see what he does, then get saddler and/or physio to give his back the once over. Only exercise I can think that would deter this would be to take him xc!!!!
 
My old mare used to land and buck if I came down heavily in the saddle after a fence. Are you sure you're light in the seat and confident that your 'back person' has done a good job? Don't mean to point the finger, just relaying my experience.
 
Chloe - he has a jeffrison's (sp?) hand made and fitted saddle, so not a prob. He doesnt have any padding tho. He has the back man every 3 months minimum. I do know if you have heard of him, his name is Peter Beck and i have tried sevral back epople with him, and i have complete faith in him! He does it lunged, may try loose schooling as havent tried that. Also funny enough i have just arrnaged to take him xc on monday, i have tried as much as i can to rule out pain so im taking him xc to see if his reaction differs, if he being ridden fowards in his own rythm.
MysteryGirl - i jump him in light seat as i know he can be sensitive about his back (he had an incredibly bad back when he arrived. He would shy away from being touched with just a grooming brush let alone a saddle).

The fact that its getting icreasingly worse to the point he bucks so hard and high he has thron me off would indicate pain, but he isnt sore, lame etc etc... fine on flat. and up gallops. Fine on other surfaces etc.

Thanks you
 
yes have met Peter he treated my mothers WB fab back guy one of the best I think I would get him out to check him again coz he is bound to pick something up if there is anything. only other thing I can think of if it's not the back that maybe it's his front feet and when he lands he is experiencing pain and kicking out in fury...abscess?... corns?... long shot but only other thing I can think of that might produce this reaction....teeth ok?....
 
I personally believe peter is miracle worker lol
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Did flexions all round and threw nothing up. Also lunged on hard & soft ground with no changes to strides etc. Feet look healthy etc. My YO pincered (sp?) them to check there was no soreness or softness. HIs feet are done every 6 weeks and he has natrual balnce shoes on. His teeth are done yearly but due in November so may have them checked, his bucking is getting ridicolous. However he is having no trouble eating or chewing etc. It points ot pain but i cant help thinking that if he was in that much pain to provoke the increasingly bad reactions im getting he would show something in flat/ hack/ road or gallop work (or even in raised trotting poles)

Thanks for all the thoughts tho.
 
Myabe he's finding the work stressful/ worrying? Even if he's scopey enough to go that high, it may be blowing his brains? I'd try a while of just smaller stuff without much schooling- hacking and letting him chill out...
 
NoSurrender - that is a fair comment however he is jumped school once a week. He is flatted/hack etc the other days and has one or two days off a week. Also im currently not jumping him to that hight. When jumping him he always starts with trot poles, then a cross pole. We have having prolbems over any fence, any height. Last time he started bucking and kicking out, too the point he threw me off was over a 0.80m cross pole!! So the middle was perhaps 0.50m (??). I have taken it very slowly with him and always gradually build anythig he does, and only jmup him for short periods of time.
 
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I'd want back x-rays to rule out kissing spine, as a priority tbh as it sounds classical behaviour.

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This. I was reading it thinking KS.
 
My horse used to do this, but only over smaller jumps, once that got to 90cm+ he stopped. I think he used to find it too easy so added some excitment. He has grown out of it, I spent quite a bit of time doing poles on the floor from walk and trot. Not troting poles just ramdom poles on the floor in the field I would school over. then I jumped very small jumps from trot until it was no longer exciting. He doesnt seem to do it any more. If you cant find any pain or problems it might be something he will grow out of. I hope you find a solution
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