SHWMAE going to court

Because it's not advised to share details of ongoing court cases, which this might now be. It's not amandamt being funny about it, it's good advice.
 
We all want the same outcome that this child nails her coffin. I have been going through her page with a fine tooth comb and business wise everything appears to be going well. Then a crack in the wall being you surfaces and I ask myself would she of done this lightly? Are you part of some bigger plan along with saying she is going quiet on her company. Out foxing the fox can be difficult if you play all of the cards early.
 
AmandaMT said:
To take you to court she must have a strategy. Does anyone else think there must be a reason she has taken you to court and not anyone else.
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Errrrrrr. You've missed all the stuff on Facebook and threads on this and other forums about the company and its owner, haven't you?

Strategy :D
 
Yes you are correct there is many threads on H&H forums about this company. And also pages/groups on Facebook, after a brief description on my situation with the company I was originally asking if the company had/threatened to take anyone else to court, or if anyone else has taken then then court etc....
I know there are many many many people that have had 'problems' with this company as you have all said you only have to google the company name. If only I had done that before I ordered and handed over monies, I would be here now!
 
AmandaMT said:
We all want the same outcome that this child nails her coffin. I have been going through her page with a fine tooth comb and business wise everything appears to be going well. Then a crack in the wall being you surfaces and I ask myself would she of done this lightly? Are you part of some bigger plan along with saying she is going quiet on her company. Out foxing the fox can be difficult if you play all of the cards early.
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I can see what you are saying about play all my cards, but I have only said what she already knows. I feel like you are asking me to justify myself, I do not need to do that, I have given her no reason to say/email me papers that she is taking me to court, and if we do go then I am sure this will be proved there.
If you look on the various other forum threads even just on H&H you will find many other unhappy customers from This company as I did before I asked my original question.
 
AmandaMT said:
We all want the same outcome that this child nails her coffin. I have been going through her page with a fine tooth comb and business wise everything appears to be going well.
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That is because they themselves go through their pages with a fine toothed comb and anything remotely questioning removed immediately and the person banned....
 
She must have a sad life. Hoofmoves get all of your evidence and get this women finally strung up for all the wrong she has done.
 
jemima*askin said:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/480126765465371/permalink/503042546507126/

The above link may be of some interest. Shwmae were taken to court, lost the case and have not paid the monies due by 15 August. Hopefully their customer will manage eventually to get back the money a court has ruled that she is owed.
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Just to say that this happened to me with a different company (not horsey) and when it does you can pay a little more and they will send the bailiffs after the person to try and recover the money. They did this with my claim and I got my money back and all the costs, so if anyone else is in this situation don't give up if they don't pay up.
 
Hi, yes I called the court yesterday, claim is genuine, still awaiting the paperwork.... .. Spoke to the lady today who posted on FB about her court experience it's taken her a year to go thru the courts!
 
Hoofmoves said:
Hi, yes I called the court yesterday, claim is genuine, still awaiting the paperwork.... .. Spoke to the lady today who posted on FB about her court experience it's taken her a year to go thru the courts!
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Well then she's a very silly young lady indeed. Stick with it and hopefully she will be shut down completely.
 
It's so silly, as there taking me to court saying I haven't paid... But I have, I paid on 19th June, I have the PayPal reciept..!! I have had NO refund!
 
OP, just wait and make a start at correlating all your evidence into a document that tells the whole story in a logical way. No flannel, just facts set out so it easy for the judge to understand. Did Shwmae send you any formal letters requesting payment? Prior to taking you to court they need to show that they have made every effort to resolve the issue.

Shwmae defended the case I brought against them and turned up for the hearing but then had it adjourned as they said that they had further evidence that they had not submitted to the court as they were not aware that they should do so. Jessica Clarkes Granddad, Mr Edward Clarke was 'representing' Shwmae and Anne Brown was there as well although she did not really speak. Anyway they did not submit any further evidence which was of no surprise to me and they failed to turn up for the hearing on 1st August. Again no surprises there.

Next step will be bailiffs as they have not paid me any of the monies the judge awarded.

I just hope that all the other people with outstanding CCJs continue to pursue Shwmae.
 
What a pita, I guess they hope that people will just back down and pay (or again!) rather than go through the hassle and stress of having to take it to court.
 
Corner Mad House said:
OP, just wait and make a start at correlating all your evidence into a document that tells the whole story in a logical way. No flannel, just facts set out so it easy for the judge to understand. Did Shwmae send you any formal letters requesting payment? Prior to taking you to court they need to show that they have made every effort to resolve the issue.

Shwmae defended the case I brought against them and turned up for the hearing but then had it adjourned as they said that they had further evidence that they had not submitted to the court as they were not aware that they should do so. Jessica Clarkes Granddad, Mr Edward Clarke was 'representing' Shwmae and Anne Brown was there as well although she did not really speak. Anyway they did not submit any further evidence which was of no surprise to me and they failed to turn up for the hearing on 1st August. Again no surprises there.

Next step will be bailiffs as they have not paid me any of the monies the judge awarded.

I just hope that all the other people with outstanding CCJs continue to pursue Shwmae.
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If you are not the same person that put about there court case on FB today, you are the second person I have thankfully heard from that's been to court with Themis company, no she hasn't requested a payment from me again as I have already paid,...seems utter madness!
I feel It's all because I asked PayPal for a refund, which is being looked into as we speak
 
Hoofmoves said:
That's so funny you say that!! As she said I should watch judge Rinder to educate myself!! Pmsl ��
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You'd think she would be too busy running her business to watch any TV at all, let alone that sort of mindless rubbish. I have friends who work for themselves and they are doing 14+ hour days.
 
This popped up in my facebook feed so might be of use to you

FYI ... I took Shwmae Products Ltd through the Small Claims Court.
The judgment went in my favour even though Shwmae defended the case.
In brief, the product they sent me was not fit for purpose. Even though Shwmae initially agreed to make alterations to the rug they later decided that they would not alter it and sent some other damaged tat back to me. The company director has consistently lied to me and been abusive. She is generally a particularly unpleasant person and so is her side kick the other company director.
The court ordered the company to pay me all outstanding costs and debts by 15th August 2014, the total now exceeds £300. It would have been a lot cheaper for Shwmae to have resolved the issue straight away instead of being abusive to me, the customer!
Thinking they are above the law Shwmae have not paid the monies owed, no surprise there. So the next step will be to call in the bailiffs, thus adding even more costs to the amount that Shwmae owe me.
Will this silly immature little girl ever learn. I wont back off, I wont keep quiet, I wont give in to threats from her, I will continue to pursue this matter until they finally refund me and the longer it goes on the more it is going to cost her.
So be warned ... Shwmae Products Ltd, Shwmae Horsewear or any of the other names that they trade under, they are not a company that I would recommend to anyone
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And this is all the replies

-Very well done you. You deserve a hefty pat on the back. This company and rather unlikeable "Company Director" seriously needed taking to task. I dread to think just how many people were ripped off - either by being provided with shoddy goods or in the main I think, by not receiving any goods at all!!. Please keep us posted - I for one would be very interested to hear if she pays up or not.

-I sincerely hope they learn their lesson and pay you all monies owed plus a public apology

-I remember seeing a thing about this company a year or two ago. Awful company and I've seen replies they sent to customers. Totally disgusting x

-Well done, and I hope when other cases get to court that the Judge will be made aware that there is a definite pattern.

-I followed the whole horse & hound thread and horse gossip threads all the way though until they were removed and this company I a JOKE and karma will catch up with them!

-ooooo I enquired about rugs from them last year, thank goodness there response was such a shambles that I never purchased from them! Good on you for seeing it through.

-Ha! Nice one! She rang me about a horse we had for sale and was extremely rude over the phone telling me it was far too expensive. (cheeky wench). Vowed not to buy a thing off her. Glad I didn't now!!! Well done with your court case x

-I nearly bought a hood of them the other day, wS a bright pink one reduced to £20 looked too good a bargain!!

-I think the court case, which they defended, just shows that they couldn't be honest if their lives depended on it. Their defence was a pack of lies and utter dribble.

-Oo ***** me too. Send in the sheriffs I say x

-Did you see the latest HHO thread - gone now? Apparently THEY are threatening to take a CUSTOMER to court!

-Always Google. Google is your friend!

-There used to be a Facebook page, had all their tatty products on that people had complaint about. Something like 'shawme products-do not buy'

-There is a page called Shwmae Products Blocked Customer Support for anyone who needs help

-Yes ***** I saw the H&H, if Shwmae take the customer to court they will be sent away with a flea in their ear, its almost laughbale


-I've also had lots of abuse from them I was supposed to have a onesie made as a supreme prize after messaging twice they started to use violent messages and rude language, hope this company gets shut down before they upset more people!!!

- ***** - you need to copy your original post onto The SP BCS Page.

-I was severely let down by them and then they tried taking more money out of my bank!!!!!

-They said they would change and guess what they have not

-Dont under any circumstances pay them by bank transfer!! They no longer have a pay pal account, and that is the only way you can stand any chance of getting your money back

-I was stupid enough to pay by bank transfer. Still nothing delivered from months ago x

-Good for you, they tried to fob me off with a "made to measure" onesie that was completely the wrong size and took weeks and weeks to come. Fortunately I paid with Paypal and did get my money back in the end. A completely unprofessional company. They no longer take Paypal, bank transfer only - that should ring alarm bells for people if nothing else does.

-Well done you!! They have the WORST reputation, I found out to my cost too, luckily for very little in monetary cost.

- ****** what is the SpBCS page? Feel free to share my post on there or anywhere else. Spread the word as far as possible for me!!

-They no longer use paypal so customers have no protection or come back

-Bet this company doesn't pay there taxes either

-***** is this who still owes you? xx

-I had the worst experience with these children, they are liars, fobbed me off for weeks, blamed couriers, then I was unreasonable because they had a horse PTS. I would never use these cowboys again. Use Dreamchaser every time even over Snuggy Hugs.

-We ordered some things from them a year or so ago - truly rubbish. Took forever to get to us, the quality was completely rubbish and they were damn right rude! Never again will I use them or recommend them and I'm truly shocked they are still able to trade!

-Luckily never heard of them?

-Just to look at the pictures of the kind of quality (?) this company produces would stop me purchasing anything from them - the terms 'Cheap and cheerful' 'You get what you pay for' and

-This company is still on Facebook

-oops, pressed return there . . . . would rather pay for a well researched, well made and honest supplier - and be happier to pay a little more for a product that says what it does on the label . . . . . LIVELHOODS all the way!!

-or even Livelyhoods all the way!! Sorry for the miss spelling. . . . . .But love your products . . .

-I ordered turnout socks from them 'next day delivery' they blamed getting lost with couriers, after 2 weeks they turned up have to say good quality, good fit and still using then a year later, after all the bad press think I was lucky!!

-Was going to order from them so relieved now I've seen this post and I won't be bothering x

-They conned me 150 pound Aswell but I got my money back after a month

-Are there any other companies that do something like there onesie? I have a coloured and I was thinking of of getting one( glad I didn't) I can't keep hock boots on her and she's always leaving me plenty of work to do the morning of a show.

-I have to say the first product I bought was fab, the next few were not so. They arrived very late, didn't fit, asked if they would alter and fit zip. Took 6 months to return, blamed courier. When they did arrive had been altered but no zip added and still don't fit! Nearly £400 down the drain!!!!

- I cannot see how a fleece onsie or anything else fleecy can keep a horse totally clean. Surely, if they lie down in poo or a pee, then it is obviously going to soak through the fleece onto their coat. Someone please correct me if I am looking at this from the wrong angle.

-It wasn't a fleece/lycra one I was after they did a turnout one it was that kinda thing but I know exactly what you mean x

-I no they have a bad rep I found out after I ordered, but I got my onsie within 2 days and I think it's great. Maybe I'm just lucky? Hope you get it sorted

-I have always wanted one of their onesies, but now I've seen this I think I'll wait until Horzehoods have released theirs & get from them! will probably be a fraction of the price too, hope your issues are resolved & she bucks her ideas up xx

-I too got conned by them but with a horse and I have never forgiven myself. I let them have a youngster of mine for a "home for life". I got the hard luck stories about no money and their last horse PTS, and I naively bought the story. Suffice to say I have found it impossible to find out what happened to the pony. Every time I did speak to her it was a different story!

-Horsewear do onesies and are on sale x

-I'm having the same issues. Going through courts. Taken over a year so far, with costs going up and up. Shwmae products can not be trusted.

-Horsewear very good professional and excellent quality

-do have there website address as I can't seem to find it x

-My friend had the same problem with them after ordering for presents for her children for christmas, they did not deliver, lied to her,then would not reply to emails and blocked her, i then tried to make contact with them and they then did the same to me. She was lucky to get her money back after a long winded process. There is now a group on here called shwmae products blocked customer support for those needing help to get their money back.
***** show your mum xxx
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Lady, thankyou for posting all the above! Nice to know your not the only one being dragged they the courts, for no reason!! Couldn't tell me what Facebook page/group that was on? Be handy for me to print off and off take with me backing the case in not the only unhappy customer as that was she kept telling me, I know that's untrue! Thanks guys! X
 
Curious.... (from that post)

"Paying:-
We don't do PayPal, we do bank transfer with contract/invoice.
Information needed will be. Delivery address, possible number if you aren't in for delivery and we will also need an email to send the invoice to."

Can you get banned from Paypal?
 
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