Shwmae Products Ltd

[RunToEarth]

I still think the socks where a good idea. My horse gets washed twice the night before a show and usually at least once in the morning of the show as he is basically hoof to elbow white and then hoof to hock white. It was as much a hope to help reduce the irritation to his pink skin as much as to keep legs clean. And his legs only get washed for a show, otherwise they are untouched!!

A lot of things are designed to make our lives easier so why cant we have them for horses?!

I suppose what bothered me about the socks is that I have confidence that a set of bandages put on properly will stay there without being uncomfortable and irritable, the socks don't really do that for me and I just can't see that the stretchy material is that comfortable or breathable.

It's not about getting up earlier, it's about having to bathe horses EVERY day which can't be good for their skin. YO's daughter has a grey BSJA pony and when they go to the big shows the pony needs a bath every day to keep her clean - can't do HOYS or equivalent covered in poo stains.

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This is their equine onesie:

http://www.shwmaeproductsltd.co.uk/userfiles/4548/products/1369312788.JPG

The material appears to be the same cheapy fleece material that you find with Primark PJs - the type that becomes static, makes you sweaty and is generally nasty, I can't imagine it does the horse much good.

The legs look baggy - a bit like human PJs. I can't vouch for anyone elses' horses' reaction - but if I put those on mine they would probably boot the hell out of themselves, I also think loosely fitting things around horses legs are dangerous. The tops of the back legs are baggy - I would be concerned that on getting up from being laid down, they would catch a hoof in there.

I would not like to leave a horse for an evening with that on it's head - I don't think it is healthy for the horse to spent hours with fleece around it's ears.

I don't trust Velcro as a rug fastener. The whole thing is held together by Velcro, and I would worry that a horse would half undress itself and hang itself/impale itself as horses tend to do.

I understand the need to not wash your horse every day of the year, but I do think that with a good set of well applied bandages, some stain remover and some rugs it isn't difficult to keep a horse clean - it's possible, I have a grey...and no onesie!

 

[spottybotty]

Well, I will say that (possibly) thanks to my prompting on here and PM'ing her, my YO has had at least had a communication from Jessica and a promise that the item will arrive tomorrow . . . not holding my breath, but hopeful.

I get the sense that perhaps the business owner is just overwhelmed and/or disorganized . . . either way she needs to get a grip and stop over promising and under delivering to customers.

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But they have been doing this to people for at least 2 yrs! Its not just since the "onseies" (spelling?) came out.

 

[smellsofhorse]

They are advertising a 50% sale on their facebook page.

Be warned don't do it!

 

[GrumpyHero]

Can't believe they are advertising a 50% off sale when they haven't even completed orders from almost 6 months ago!!!

 

[Patterdale]

Also, the concept of a horse onesie is not a new one, I had one in the 80's for my grey pony (legs, body and all) She neither felt undignified or uncomfortable, just another rug for her.

How do you know?? They look incredibly uncomfortable to me!

I saw these rugs as a way of making my old girls life more comfortable. It appeared to offer the best protection against flies. And before we go down the line of have you tried the answer is yes ... fly mask, sweet itch with belly flap rug, fly spray ... and still she is eaten alive by flies.

You tell me what you would do?

Well I'm sorry but I wouldn't have thought encasing her in cheap fleece in summer would make her feel any better!

I'm sorry people have lost money and the company sounds like a total nightmare but I can't help but feel glad for all the lucky horses who've escaped having to wear one of these monstrosities.

 

[chestnut cob]

The material appears to be the same cheapy fleece material that you find with Primark PJs - the type that becomes static, makes you sweaty and is generally nasty, I can't imagine it does the horse much good.

This. The material looks vile. I have some cheap Primark fleece PJs for lounging around in when it's really cold. I can only wear them for about an hour as they're too itchy, hot and go all static-y. Imagine leaving that on your horse all night long. Also agree about velcro fastening. They look stupid and I really don't believe they are in the slightest bit comfortable for a horse.

Seriously people.. rugs and bandages are by far better.

My horse would hate having something like this on. He is currently hunter clipped and only in a 75g full neck - he'd be boiling and itchy in this.

 

[Ladyinred]

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I don't trust Velcro as a rug fastener. The whole thing is held together by Velcro, and I would worry that a horse would half undress itself and hang itself/impale itself as horses tend to do.

I understand the need to not wash your horse every day of the year, but I do think that with a good set of well applied bandages, some stain remover and some rugs it isn't difficult to keep a horse clean - it's possible, I have a grey...and no onesie!

This would also be my biggest worry. Horses are self-harming suicide machines and , to me, this is inviting trouble.

Also looks bl@@dy silly.. but hey.

 

[Ladyinred]

How do you know?? They look incredibly uncomfortable to me!



Well I'm sorry but I wouldn't have thought encasing her in cheap fleece in summer would make her feel any better!

I'm sorry people have lost money and the company sounds like a total nightmare but I can't help but feel glad for all the lucky horses who've escaped having to wear one of these monstrosities.

The better answer would surely be to buy a fly rug. A bit more costly but also a darn sight better made and last longer.

 

[only_me]

I suppose what bothered me about the socks is that I have confidence that a set of bandages put on properly will stay there

My issue was not with the legs as I can whack on a set of bandages within minutes but I wanted to keep his knees clean which bandages do not cover - I don't bother bandaging the night before anymore as he still gets his knees dirty so have to wet the legs anyway!

The socks covered the knee and hocks so I had hoped it would help the knees and hocks clean!

But then I don't really see the need why we need to justify something we had bought or in this case tried to buy - What I really wanted the socks for was when we stay away at shows in temporary stabling. There is usually no access to a hose as normally stables are plonked in middle of field and only a tap to fill buckets. I thought they would be particularly useful for keeping legs clean way from home tbh!

 

[Corner Mad House]

Stugatsio ... think you might need to contact an Aus equivalent of Citizens Advice and see what they say

 

[Corner Mad House]

Ladyinred. A fly rug is cheaper than an Ultimate Onsie, I know I have bought one with a belly flap but still my horse was eaten alive by flies, hence the thought the Onsie might help. However the material would have been much too thick and would have made her sweat. I have tried everything to protect her from the flies and this seemed a good idea. Obviously not a good idea after all.

 

[Dizzleton]

I'm guessing after all these FaceB offers and 'deals' there will be a lot more replies to this thread in the coming months!! I'll stick to Snuggy Hoods - Brilliant quality and fast delivery!!

 

[*hic*]

Oooh, she's getting very quick to remove people who comment on FB!

 

[ester]

IIRC I remember a thread ages ago where the owner was claiming personal/illness issues... the level of service seems to be ridiculous!

 

[GrumpyHero]

They've blocked me from commenting on their page now, ha.
Absolutely ridiculous. Wonder how many of these half price onesies will actually get to the buyers.

 

[WelshD]

Ahhhh...the Derby House tactic

People losing faith in you? cant commit to your orders? dont have time or money or intention to fulfil your orders? never mind....hold a sale!

 

[FabioandFreddy]

But they have been doing this to people for at least 2 yrs! Its not just since the "onseies" (spelling?) came out.

was going to say exactly the same!!

 

[lisa_dundee]

They will need someone on Facebook full time to keep blocking the complaints lol

 

[stugatsio]

yes tha tstrue, i havent finished with jessica she is messing with the wrong aussie , watch me

 

[JJones]

I'm blocked now. I hope they get trading standards on them.

 

[Follysmum]

Oh dear I am blocked also now.

 

[miss_c]

Interesting that suddenly they have closed their sale, hours before the cutoff time. They say 'It's better to accept when spaces are full then take more on and not be able to keep to our words'. I thought they didn't keep their word anyway?!?!?!?!

 

[MadBlackLab]

From reading this thread, this company has failed to deliver the product that customers have paid for. They have ignored all communication with clients. They remove all negative comments of their facebook page and block people who do it. Then try to drum at business by doing freebies or sales?

Well that business will be going down the pan very quickly

 

[JJones]

You know if you go onto Shwmae Facebook page and click on the people who have made comments about ordering stuff then you can message them, I have just been saying that they should look at this thread before placing any orders!

What a good idea! Pity I got blocked. They do have 2 Facebook pages as well.

 

[WelshD]

From reading this thread, this company has failed to deliver the product that customers have paid for. They have ignored all communication with clients. They remove all negative comments of their facebook page and block people who do it. Then try to drum at business by doing freebies or sales?

Well that business will be going down the pan very quickly

But what is amazing is that it hasnt gone down the pan and has been trading for a while officially since last year but i saw it advertised before that so maybe as a different trading name or as a hobby company - its been announced as shut down once and has gone through one major meltdown and other smaller issues yet it keeps going!

 

[Jonesy]

You can all info from companies house - incorporated in 2011, most recent changes are to do with the directors on 19/10/2013. You can 'order' info on the company, some is free and some you have to pay for.

Hope everyone gets their refunds! X

 

[amandap]

But equally, I can't imagine being trussed up in what looks like horrid, cheap "fleece" all night, every night is exactly good for their skin either.

Yes, I just can't get my head round why anyone would want to buy this type of product anyway!

 

[*hic*]

Ah, I didn't realise they had two pages, I have been completely blocked from one of them.

Perhaps some of those with big problems should get together and set up a group to let others know what service (!) they have had and then they could invite some other people who might be about to get stung the same way.

 

[miss_c]

Giggling at the latest photo they've uploaded... I've been blocked from commenting as well now, no official public comment from them as I requested.

 

[Corner Mad House]

Today my Ultimate Onsie has been returned to me. Unfortunately they seem to have forgotten to do the agreed alterations which would make it 'the perfect fit'. Obviously this is breach of contract. Oh dear Jessica, more do-do coming your way. Will you ever learn. A letter will be on its way to you very soon sweetheart.