Sick to death of irresponsible dog owners

3 what ? I honestly have never known anybody be attacked by a dog when out riding, I've been chased at the beach by loose dogs but they can't keep up ! Does that count ?
 
bonny said:
3 what ? I honestly have never known anybody be attacked by a dog when out riding, I've been chased at the beach by loose dogs but they can't keep up ! Does that count ?
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I don't think people who have had to have staples in horses wounds following dog attacks will agree. There have also been police horses attacked whilst on duty and dog owners subsequently prosecuted.
 
What you don't think people will agree that I've never known anybody attacked by a dog when out riding ! I didn't say it never happened, I said it was incredibly rare.....
 
Its definately not rare round here.
On the edge of the M25 area, good common land for walking/riding over.
Area VERY highly populated.
Not many horseriders (about 2 dozen as I can recall) use the area regularly.

However, many of the animals walked are either taken by school mums in a group for a natter, most dogs off lead an 'only wanting to play' with the horses, or are in a pack of 6 to 10 with a 'pro' handler who has most off lead......

Of course there are some lovely dog walkers who will call dogs back - but round here this IS a rarety!

There have been 5 recorded incidents alone on this 700acre patch since xmas - those that have been noted to council/BHS etc

Most of us who ride here go out incredibly early to avoid the fruit-loops who cannot control their little darlings.

TFF, yes I have had dogs & used to do obedience training to a reasonable level......
 
bonny said:
What you don't think people will agree that I've never known anybody attacked by a dog when out riding ! I didn't say it never happened, I said it was incredibly rare.....
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I've never known anyone on horseback personally who has been attacked by a dog either. The odd dog chasing horses yes, that's happened to me a few times, but I've just firmly told the dogs to go home, and turned my horse and chased the dogs away; always worked for me. It does however seem a weekly occurrence on this forum though so I guess it happens.
 
The Fuzzy Furry said:
Its definately not rare round here.
On the edge of the M25 area, good common land for walking/riding over.
Area VERY highly populated.
Not many horseriders (about 2 dozen as I can recall) use the area regularly.

However, many of the animals walked are either taken by school mums in a group for a natter, most dogs off lead an 'only wanting to play' with the horses, or are in a pack of 6 to 10 with a 'pro' handler who has most off lead......

Of course there are some lovely dog walkers who will call dogs back - but round here this IS a rarety!

There have been 5 recorded incidents alone on this 700acre patch since xmas - those that have been noted to council/BHS etc

Most of us who ride here go out incredibly early to avoid the fruit-loops who cannot control their little darlings.

TFF, yes I have had dogs & used to do obedience training to a reasonable level......
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VERY accurate round here on the North Downs too. I've had friends and customers horses who have been attacked locally, we are right on the edge of a lot of countryside and lots of bridlepaths but as the Fuzzy Furry has said, it's very highly populated area. I've had numerous out of control dogs chase my dogs and jump on them, often resulting in a spat as my dogs get fed up with it. They like to play with friendly dogs but don't like in your face dogs as they have been bitten by a few and don't forget it no matter how much socialisation they get with other dogs. I now stand look straight at the owners and bellow in a very loud voice "can you recall your dog, UNWANTED ATTENTION" if I see one bounding over that could be a problem and owners ignore it i.e. stalking in the crouching position like it's going to pounce which scares my dogs as it's seen as aggressive. I have also noticed when I have my dogs on a lead they let their dogs run straight up, now surely common sense would tell them that the dogs are on a lead for a reason, could be they are getting over an injury and need to be kept calm and restrained, or they are nervous, have no recall or are aggressive so WHY not respect that and call their dogs back?
I can't fathom that one out!
After my bellowing the owners usually are shamed in to calling their dogs back and of course they get ignored by their selective hearing dog/s so the next bellow consists of "If you have NO recall come and get the damn thing" I'm past being patient with idiots when you have had your dogs chased and bitten so many times as I have, I'm sure others who have experienced the same thing feel the same. It's down to ignorance and laziness that people don't train their dogs to recall. My Lurcher has good recall most of the time BUT if it's small and furry, she's off at 40 mph then I can forget it, nothing in heaven or hell will stop a sighthound once in top gear and she will chase small dogs as she's very playful and thinks it's a game and the poor scared dogs can't out run her, if I see one coming I get her on the lead as soon as, I do the same for horses. She's never chased a horse as she's scared of them but why take the risk, it's about being a responsible dog owner.
 
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cremedemonthe said:
VERY accurate round here on the North Downs too. I've had friends and customers horses who have been attacked locally, we are right on the edge of a lot of countryside and lots of bridlepaths but as the Fuzzy Furry has said, it's very highly populated area. I've had numerous out of control dogs chase my dogs and jump on them, often resulting in a spat as my dogs get fed up with it. They like to play with friendly dogs but don't like in your face dogs as they have been bitten by a few and don't forget it no matter how much socialisation they get with other dogs. I now stand look straight at the owners and bellow in a very loud voice "can you recall your dog, UNWANTED ATTENTION" if I see one bounding over that could be a problem and owners ignore it i.e. stalking in the crouching position like it's going to pounce which scares my dogs as it's seen as aggressive. I have also noticed when I have my dogs on a lead they let their dogs run straight up, now surely common sense would tell them that the dogs are on a lead for a reason, could be they are getting over an injury and need to be kept calm and restrained, or they are nervous, have no recall or are aggressive so WHY not respect that and call their dogs back?
I can't fathom that one out!
After my bellowing the owners usually are shamed in to calling their dogs back and of course they get ignored by their selective hearing dog/s so the next bellow consists of "If you have NO recall come and get the damn thing" I'm past being patient with idiots when you have had your dogs chased and bitten so many times as I have, I'm sure others who have experienced the same thing feel the same. It's down to ignorance and laziness that people don't train their dogs to recall. My Lurcher has good recall most of the time BUT if it's small and furry, she's off at 40 mph then I can forget it, nothing in heaven or hell will stop a sighthound once in top gear and she will chase small dogs as she's very playful and thinks it's a game and the poor scared dogs can't out run her, if I see one coming I get her on the lead as soon as, I do the same for horses. She's never chased a horse as she's scared of them but why take the risk, it's about being a responsible dog owner.
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very well said, I am also sick of my dog being attacked by out of control dogs where I live. my dog has never had the best recall response despite taking her training so therefore she stays on the lead, its a shame but rather that than her chasing other peoples dogs, cats, horses etc.
 
shannonandtay said:
very well said, I am also sick of my dog being attacked by out of control dogs where I live. my dog has never had the best recall response despite taking her training so therefore she stays on the lead, its a shame but rather that than her chasing other peoples dogs, cats, horses etc.
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Agree, I know my Lurcher's limit and what she can do (chase) so I am VERY aware of where she is and who's about.I also make and carry beef treats for her which she loves and now I can merely raise my arm when she's a fair distance away and she'll spot me and return knowing she's going to get a treat for being a good girl.
I tend to walk in large open spaces like Kenley airfield (ex WW2 fighter station) or Happy Valley and Farthing Downs, so I can see for quite a long way and know who's around.
It works both ways, I can keep away from known trouble makers and bully dogs as well as keeping her away from little fluffy dogs
 
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