Simple System feed.... Anyone use this??

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My dad's put our horses on Simple System Lucie Bix, Suger Beet and Grass Nuts. I'm just wondering if anybody uses it too and how you feed it/quantities etc.

My only quandry with it is that they get a massive feed which in normal hard feed terms you'd say is too much but it's supposed to go through into the hind gut quicker and therefore the quantity isn't an issue? They don't "graze" it either they stand and eat it till it's gone. Both horses are looking well, shiny coats etc but my man is only really just holding his weight.

Interested in other peoples experiences with this feeding system please
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well the man who has just backed mine and a friends horse swears by it,he had a poor doer and he hasn't looked back.
he is an eventer by the way.
ours horses came back looking even better and so i can't complain !!!
 
My dad got onto it through friends who feed it and liveries on their yard use it too. Even a lamanitic pony there has lost weight being on it and is able to be turned out etc because of it's system. So I've not heard anything that concerns me. Just interested to see how others use it? Our fussy eaters loves it too which is a massive bonus as Dad's horse is usually a pain but eats everything.
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I'm may suggest to DAd that he puts my man on more of the Grass Nuts which I believe are supposed to be the next step up so to speak.
 
How'd you use it Bonzebean? Do you give it in one big feed and leave them to it? What breed of horse etc?

My man's an ex racer 23yrs doesn't hold his weight too well - Dad's got 7/8ths TB and whips in on him, he doesn't hold his weight too good either.

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Trainer swears by it as does a friend of mine esp for laminitics as absolutely no added sugar or molasses, have just been and bought the lucienuts and purabeet so hope they're right!
 
Hi, I have been feeding my three poinies SS feeds for about 8 months, (2 laminitics) Luciebix and Lucie Nuts.
They get about one inch of luciebix soaked in very watered down beet (soaked for about 20 mins) then a handfull of lucie nuts mixed in with baileys low cal vit and min. (twice a day)
Its amazingly economical 1 bag of each lasts me a month.
They all look brill on it and all being natives they have also lost weight
 
I got on to SS when I was doing endurance. I saw Jan Van Lennep competing at a 60 mile ride and realised that her horse was unshod behind and had feet like iron, so thought there must be something in her feeds! It is excellent for endurance horses as they need slow release energy and can eat liberally at all vet gates with this feed to keep themselves topped up. It is also excellent at hydrating horses at it is made up with so much water. When I was left with an 7 week old orphan foal to rear, Jane gave me loads of advice and we mixed mares milk replacer with soaked SS feeds and I now have a healthy 4 year old. The feeds are brilliant for happy, level headed horses as they contain no sugars or cereals and Jane is incredibly fussy where they are sourced from. Don't worry if the quantities seem huge as they contain no cereal, they are very easily digested.
 
We use SS feed, and find it fab. They have something for everything from an aged veteran with no teeth through to racehorses. Might be that your horse needs something else from their range Runaway.

In winter it is great to soak huge trugs of the stuff and leave it for the horses to "graze" on overnight, as well as their hay or haylage.

Ours look fab on it.
 
I use SS and think its great. My old pony hasnt looked terrible well on senior conditioning feeds, then I put her on this and what a difference it has made to her. I also feed it to my youngsters and lammi ponies. They all look fantastic and love it.
Have you thought about changing the Luciebix to the Luciecobs? and which grass nuts are you feeding the blue or red bag? Red bag is classed as spring grass so is higher in DE. Also consider feeding their linseed feed/supplement.

Why dont you ring SS or email them and ask their advice on what would be the right quantities adn feeds for your horses. THeyve been really helpful for me and provided me with a full feeding regime for all my horses.

Normally I just give them 2 feeds a day of roughly 2 scoops of the stuff (soaked not unsoaked weight). I know someone who feeds tubtrugs full of SS to their horses each day. He just puts the buckets in the field and leaves them to it. He says they ewat what they want then wander away and then come back to it later - really just like they do when they wander around for grass.
 
I used it and although I like the idea of high fibre low starch I found it really complicated and time consuming to use. fine if you've got one horse but a pain in the a*** if you've got more than that! It's hillarious its cally simple systems - it's far from simple!
 
Im thinking of switching to SS for Beau.

I emailed them and got lots of info back, most of it went over my head though, so going to have to ask for it in stupid people terms LOL!
 
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How'd you use it Bonzebean? Do you give it in one big feed and leave them to it? What breed of horse etc?

My man's an ex racer 23yrs doesn't hold his weight too well - Dad's got 7/8ths TB and whips in on him, he doesn't hold his weight too good either.

Thanks
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Sorry, I rushed my reply and never gave you any detail.
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I tend to feed it as one big feed. I prefer to call it a glorified haynet as that is what it is really.

The best thing to do is phone Jane Van Lennap at Simple Systems. If you tell her exactly what your horses are like, how they are kept, how much work they are doing etc she will give you a taylor made feed regime for each horse.

My half TB hunter type is generally put on Lucibix and total eclipse. If it gets very cold or his work levels go up I add in some blue bag grass buts.

The old TB on the other hand she has lucinuts and red bag grass nuts as standard.

They each have varying requirements.

They are the most helpful feed company I have ever dealt with.
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All the spanish horses on our yard are on it inc mine.

They have it more as you would feed a normal hard feed in that they get it in two meals a day.

They have lucichaf, soaked lucibix and then the eclipse balancer.

All blooming and doing very well on it. They've all put on condition nicely inc the stallions.

Seems to be good stuff.
 
My very skinny TB didn't really take to it- he was pescribed the diet you are talking about, but he's not a fan of alf alfa in general. I got so annoyed with the Lucibix I never even finished the bag. I couldn't get them to soak properly- either too wet or hard in the middle.
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I fed it as two huge feeds a day and he would eat the whole thing in one go- well, he would spit it all out then sort through it so it took him ages to eat.
I was concerened about his weight though, so fed oil and topspec balancer as well- this way I knew his diet was balanced.
I think their principles are very good though, and am still following their 'plan' but using alfa beet which he will eat for some reason.
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I have used SS for a year now and would not change back.

My two look great, Cairo has never had so much energy and stamina.

Chancer at present is having two large feeds a day as I am putting a bit more weight and muscle on him for the showing champs he has shortly, so he is having greengold and grass nuts.

Normally I feed lucie stalks and greengold with speedibeet in the winter.

I love giving them two big feeds a day and leaving them to munch away.

They also have brewers yeast and instant linseed.
 
My Dad's got the system sussed re dry feed:water ratio and he does likewise jakesmydog, mixes morning for night and night for morning. Think we're going to start doing one mix a day for the two feeds though as the weather is cooler.

The horses love it, cleaning up any that's dropped etc. It was just the unusual nature of giving them such a big feed (volume wise) that made me wonder. I can't fault the condition or anything of the horses. Spoke to Dad tonight re upping my man's to increase weigth and he's already onto it. Plus our dentist said the last time he came my man's teeth were going smooth and that he may need moistened food so this is perfect.

Interestingly I noticed the other day too that my man has new hoof growth, his cracks that are always there on his fronts are growing out!!!!
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He has bad TB hooves, so this is a bonus. I put this down to the food as this is the only consistent change that has happened to his routine/diet.

All in all I'm impressed with the results and my folks have worked out how much it costs and it is fractionally cheaper than Top Spec and additional feed which we were previously using, plus you can alter the feed level easier with this.
 
I use it having been introduced to it on an event yard i worked where everything was on greengold and unmollassed sugar beet - even the badminton/burghley horses ran off that!

My horse looks and feels fab on it. They are big quantities so mine gets breakfast and tea then a late feed at 10pm which is slightly bigger but he can munch on over night. Seems to work better for him as otherwise he is over faced with 2 big ones and doesn't eat them!
 
Hi everyone
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Thank you for taking the time to post. It's been interesting reading other peoples experiences. We're certainly happy with the feeding regime that Simple System provides although I can appreciate it is a bit fiddly if you soak the food as we do. However the horses look great and we've noticed other positive results from feeding it too. I like the natural "nature" of it, which has also been proven to work (natural is best so to speak) with our dog, although not by feeding her SS!!!!
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We had a TB mare who was intolerant to most feeds.

We found it did help although the people at the company were recommending riduculous amounts of the stuff each day which eventually put the mare off it.

And they knew less about feeding racehorses than we did. At that point (last winter) they only seemed to have serious experience of endurance horses. Hopefully that's improved now...
 
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