Simple Systems Horse Feed

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Anyone use this? Have been recommended them by my friend for their total eclipse balancer and natural ruffstuff chaff for my moody, boisterous mare. Just wondered if anyone on here had any good results from using it? My friends horse certainly seems so much more laid back and chilled and has a nice sheen to his coat.
 
I used Total Eclipse for a while earlier this year but it's very expensive and you can supplement with the individual components yourself for less money. I have the individual bits now (seaweed, linseed and brewers yeast) - personally if I compare to SS TE now, I'd say it seemed to mostly be made up of linseed with tiny amounts of the others, given that it mainly smells of linseed. I didn't see much change in my horse while he was on the TE however when it ran out and I supplemented individually, his grassy/gassy belly disappeared within a few days of feeding straight brewers yeast. Now he has an amazing coat - I've been feeding the components "straight" for the same length of time he was on the TE (3 months each) and am happier with the results I'm getting now.

I also feed SS Luci-Cob (pure alfalfa). I like it because it isn't molassed but horse isn't easily tempted to eat it. He won't eat it if I leave it in the field (even though he's on a starvation patch), he'll only eat it if he is stabled all day and even then only picks at it. He has to be really hungry to eat it - I should point out that I don't starve my horse to get him to eat it though! He gets adlib soaked hay when he's stabled. If I mix it into his normal feed, he'll generally only pick at it.

Sorry, not a great experience here! I've gone back to plain D&H High Fibre Nuts and he won't get the SS LuciCob until the grass dies off I don't think.
 
I feed green gold - alfa chaff and either just grass or ruff stuff chaff depending on how they are looking.

I too prefer to use my own amounts of linseed and BY and don't feed seaweed as I feed black sunflower seeds. I get mine from Charnwood Milling in 25 k sacks as I get through a fair bit and they are the cheapest.

I will also add speedibeet when required. If I need extra sparkle for showing, I will use the red bag grass nuts. I often take some of these to a show as an energy top up if I am there for a long time.

I have feed this way for years and whilst I have laid back types, they all do very well on this way of being fed. I have not used mix or molassed products for about eight or nine years.

They have great coats for showing, strong feet and to date I have never had any signs of colic.

They eat it all up, though Stinky takes longer and will sometimes in winter eat half, go to his hay and come back again but it is all gone by the morning. Farra's is gone within 20 minutes as she has a huge gob and eats fast.
 
I really like SS. I feed my mare Green Gold, Total eclipse and Lucie Pellets after hair analysis picked up a rye grass and wheat intolerance. She used to really suffer with gassy/bloated belly and boats of gas colic she was also a bit of a stress head! i did also feed Lucie cobs for 6 months as she also had a vitamin D deficiancy. Been on it 2 years and massive improvement, friends of mine also use it and have had good results for various different problems with their horses. Give the help line a call they arent pushy and are really helpful.
 
I have only ordered a small amount so I will see how she goes. I like your suggestion chestnutcob - as I have seen the supplements sold separately elsewhere. Will see how she fares.
I just couldnt beleive the difference in my friends horse, how calm he seemed to be and the only thing that had really changed was the feed. Fingers crossed as fed up with my crotchety mare!
 
Simple systems feed is a way of getting top dollar for relatively cheap localy produced crops. You can do a lot better . Vegan horsefeed ,honestly :D:D
 
I use simple system feeds and have done for years. I find they actually work out really cheap when compared with other makes. Because you soak the feed expands dramatically and I never feed the recommended amount, mine all do fantastically on luci nuts, pura beet - charnwood millining linseed and brewers yeast. And mine are a real mix of TB.s irish and dutch horses.
 
My next door neighbour at my yard uses it for her cob - she has to really work hard to get him to eat it and has to add loads of other things to temp him! He's very bad tempered, very jumpy, and has the worst case of wind I've ever encountered in a horse!
 
I tried it for my 3 horses who 2 will eat anything. The wouldnot eat it even if i left it in thier stable all night and tried garlic to hide the flavour. Its good if your horses will eat it i had to throw mine away!
 
We mix and match.... we use SS lucienuts daily along with Green Gold but we dont feed their supplements as they work out really expensive. Buying linseed meal and brewers yeast from Charnwood Milling is a fraction of the cost.
 
My horse lost loads of weight on it - ended up hideously expensive due to the quantities I was having to feed, he was having to have it split into 4 feeds a day and still lost weight!

I do like the fact you can ride straight after though - would be handy on winter mornings!!

I now feed brewers yeast with Falcon Conditioning Cubes, Omega Rice and Alfa A and he's much better.
 
My horse wouldnt touch it, would sniff it and then leave it. Its been years since I used it but did quite like the chaff they gave me which you had to soak and then gave him speedibeet and a mix and then he'd eat that
 
irish_only said:
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^^^^That^^^^^

Plus their advice line was telling me a lot of information that they had no source for!

They must have thought I was a complete idiot and would believe anything they said, when I started asking questions as I had a good knowledge of the subject they suddenly started backing off!

I have no confidence at all in this company as a result!
 
spottydottypony said:
I tried it for my 3 horses who 2 will eat anything. The wouldnot eat it even if i left it in thier stable all night and tried garlic to hide the flavour. Its good if your horses will eat it i had to throw mine away!
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Similar problem had here - out of my 2 one would eat it up albeit very slowly and one would pick at it and leave most if it all over the floor. After about 3 months even the one which would eat it started leaving it.

My friends ID x who would eat ANYTHING would only pick at it too & eventually wouldn't touch it. I think because it has nothing naughty in it to flavour it they get bored of it very easily.

I was on a full livery yard where it was provided as part of the package and over 50% of the horses would not eat a full ration after they had been on it for a few months.

I also didn't find it very 'simple' having to soak different feeds here, there & everywhere - it was just too much of a faff for me.

As an aside my neighbour used to feed her horse it (different yard to mine) and I often used to wait in for the delivery for her if she was working. Not once did it ever arrive on time & on occasions was over 2 hours late. I know this is not indicative of the feed itself but it was a real pain :(
 
I have been using the ruff stuff and total eclipse, mixed it in with a bit of apple juice to start but she has thankfully been eating it. It's still early days but we shall see. I don't think I would faff about with buying the ones that need soaking other than their beet mix in the winter but luckily she is a fairly good doer. She does like the salt bucket thing as well which I thought was quite good value. Tbh I actually thought that ruff stuff was quite good value, initially when I first picked it up it appeared to be the sand size as my Molly chop but when pouring it in ny feed bins in was almost double as it was so compacted. I can't use anything heating on her so it was just the fibre and general conditioning that I was after, will have to see how if goes
 
I tried it my horse started off loving it then totally refused to eat it and lost loads of weight, needless to say I switched back to Happy Hoof and no further problems.
 
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