Since you obviously all love valuing horses...-pics included-

Ahrena

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Well my sister has decided the time has come to sell Jacob..She's in her 3rd year at university and really struggling, and she has just decided she wants to carry on studying which involves her moving to London for 4 years!

Anyway, she's not sure what to put him up at, so here he is..

14.3ish coloured (piebald but goes browny in the sun?) hairy cob gelding. He's 11 years old.

He's not a typical cob - forward going, not strong but has his moments, can be spooky and definatly not a novice ride, he'll walk all over you if he can. If he's very excited, i.e first time jumping in a long time he bucks but not big. He can be very bargy on the ground especially if there's food involved and will barge through you out of his stable & through electric fence that sort of thing. Has gotten better but will still try every now and again. He's got a big jump, very bold and careful but will stop if you're nervous but he adores it. He's competed and won & placed up to 2 foot 9, and has xc schooled up to 3 foot and done a xc competition about 2 foot and won (only because everyone else was eliminated xD), and came 4th in a 2 foot 3 one. He's cleared I think it was 3 foot 9 in a Chase me Charlie once but rarely jumps/ed over 3 foot as my sister is a bit of a wimp.

His flatwork is average, he doesn't really come on the bit, he used to when he was in more regular work but doesn't at the moment but he's fairly balanced. His one attempt at dressage was appalling and got about 30% but then there was SJ with only dressage boards seperating them and Jacob likes his jumping. He's also done very well in in-hand and ridden coloured showing a couple of years ago.

He's bombproof in traffic, perfect to catch, shoe and clip but a pink pooper scooper to load. He was fine when he was going out regularily, but he had a fright when Willow attacked him and he managed to wedge his bum under the bum bar and ripped the partition out, since then he has loaded with lots of practise before hand but definatly needs a lot of work. Once in the trailer he's fine. He's also lovely to hack at home and in company provided you don't canter on the way home as that's just too exciting.

At the moment he is rather unfit and fat because she doesn't have time to ride him so he isn't a "read to go" type. Because of lack of time his flatwork has also gone down the drain a bit though his jumping is as good as ever.

He's unblemished and hasn't been lame in the last 7 years (we knew him before we bought himand we've had him 3 and a half years) He's ridden in a happy mouth snaffle and a martingale.

He will come with a very very good saddle (very comfortable and smart) which is quite old but without a mark on it and looks like new, his bridle and his full wardrobe which included about 14 good quality rugs, travelling boots ect.

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Hope thats enough!
 
If only people were as honest as you!!

I'm sure he'd suit lots of people, he sounds a wonderful character and a good all rounder.

Not idea what price you should put him at though! Sorry!
 
After i read your post i thought the photos wouldn't be great but they really are,he has quite a pop on him and IMO i think he just needs time and effort to get him back up to scratch.When you advertise him of course be honest but don't be too negative about him,there are some nice things there but you want him to go to a good home so make sure you 'sell' his good points. Although he's not my type of horse i know there would be a few people out there that would be able to take him on and do well/enjoy him.It just sounds like he needs work on the respect side of things,he needs lots of working from the ground as being bargy is not a good thing at all but it can be corrected.Not sure on a price,the loading could be sorted, so too can the flatwork.He's only worth what some one is willing to pay..... i don't generally like this type of horse but i'm really fond of him,he looks like he loves jumping,he would offer someone with the confidence and experience lots of fun.
 
Thanks everyone.

By the way, I know in those photos (minus the 1st one) he's in a 3 ring gag (on snaffle ring mind) but they're quite old and now he's in a snaffle.

Fruity - Did I really make him sound that bad? xD Maybe I better let my sister write the advert -laughs- But thanks, I do agree that it just needs time to work on it a bit, as when he was being ridden every day and going to shows he was going on the bit and loading well. He does need work on the ground lol but I think my sister doesn't want to upset him so isn't as firm as she could/should be, not to say she lets him walk all over her, but he will with a novice.

Thanks guys, now just need to know the price
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£2000 with his equipment - can't see 3 or 4k for a horse thats a reasonable allrounder but never competed higher than 2ft9 jumping and isn't much cop at dressage either, particularly as he's not a novice ride.
 
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Mind you, he did only do 1 dressage test and there were people doing SJ right next to him.

Oh forgot to add he has done PC and went to PC camp.
 
I would guess at offering for 3k and hoping for around 2.5k. He looks a lot of fun in the photos - as you say, the problems aren't big ones and he's nicely put together I think.
 
My thoughts on him would be;

£1,500 without tack
£2,000 with tack (if of decent quality)

If his behaviour issues were sorted out and he wasn't bargy then I suspect his price would be far higher as horses like this appear to be quite sought after these days. Right now he sounds like he is little more than a project horse and as such wouldn't command much more than project prices - sorry.
 
if you could train him up to be a show cob - he looks like a nice sort that would do well showing - maybe traditional coloured if not cob class?
as hes a coloured cob i think he would be worth £3000 to £4 k, as thats what they seem to be selling for. he would also be a really nice riding club horse. the price depends really on what market you want to sell to, as for a show cob it could be up to £5 k but for a riding cob would be probably £3k max...
advertise him with no price and see what the people think he is worth... then ask £500 more including tack
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To be honest I think I've made him sound worse than he is, I appreciate everyone's views and of course you only know what I've said, but I really don't think he could be called a project horse.

Earlier in the year my sister did some loading work with him and we went to a couple of shows, then he decided he didn't want to go in once day and she hasn't tried again since, so its not impossible..His barging isn't..I'm not sure how to describe it -laughs- It's not a major issue and he doesn't always do it, he's good in his stable now but he used to be a bit silly and did throw my (novice and nervous) mum in the mud last year to get to some more grass, but he isn't ridiculasly awful. His flatwork does need work but again its stuff he's done in the past so wouldn't be that much work.

I just though I'd clarify this as I think some people got a bit of the wrong end of the stick, I probably don't sell him very well as I'm not his mum xD.


Thanks everyone though. He has done well in the coloured classes she's done with me, always placed top 3 so could easily be doing that I think and more.
 
Ahh well you see the problems with the written word? You see this past post of yours sounds like a different horse to the one you descibed above. Look at this as a good learning curve for when you set about writing your advert - we are Joe Public; the same Joe Public who will be reading your advert.
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Best of luck with him and if the little things that he does which are naughty are easy to sort out - then my advice would be to definitely take the time to sort them out as it will, for sure, increase interest in him.
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Just out of interest - why do you say he is "definitely not a novice ride"? How are you going to tackle that one in your advert?
 
I've got his cousin. Bargey but not deliberately nasty near food - enjoys jumping - and be careful going out of a trot heading for home or the brakes fail - well there might be a feed bowl waiting.

Price is what someones willing to pay. Could be up to 4k with tack but I feel that lack of manners at times could pull this down. Soundness is a plus factor though and the photos are great.
 
Just not a novice ride? Novices welcome at personal risk providing they have the neccessary insurance? Not held responsible for funeral costs of any novice visiting this horse? -laughs-

No I think I worded that wrong also, it's more if you're a novice, he can tell in a heartbeat and will just completly ignore you and do his own thing. He isn't dangerous, I don't think (mind you never had a novice on him), but he would just take complete advantage of them, refuse to stop in canter, refuse that sort of thing.

The problem with sorting out his problems, is my sister really has no time to do it and nor do I as I have 2 of my own (I'm posting on here instead of her because she's not a horse forumy type person haha and I said I'd see how much people value him for) and winter is approaching and we have no floodlights.

God I did make him sound like a right nag didn't I? xD
 
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Oh I quite understand. I'm the same
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Good luck - he has a lovely face on him so when you take your 3 photos for your advert, I'd blow a photo and use one with just his face (of his offside). Then choose your other 2 very carefully - nice conformation shot and an action shot. Well that's my opinion anyway; you can do what you like.
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Sounds good to me anyway, didn't really think a flatwork picture would be good as he doesn't really have very impressive flatwork at the moment and nice and regular paces but not anything particularily flashy so not much point, and he does have that "school boyish" face.

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Depends how quickly you want to sell him for.

I have a larger coloured cob for sale atm, and although not perfect, has less issues than yours. In the two weeks he has been advertised for sale, I have had one phone call about him.

If you want to sell quickly, then try a low price, but I dont think horses are selling v well atm, perhaps better to wait until spring???
 
about 3k? He has a lovely face and a nice jump, have you tried a controller headcollar for his barging? Perhaps a dually? My horse would absolutely flatten you and barge through anything to get to food or wherever he fancied being, so I got him a Dually and now even my non-horsey nervous mum can handle im without a problem
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I would have thought 2000 - 2750 without tack up to 3500 with. I would suggest suitable for competent teeneager or not novice ride, but to be honest sounds like most cobs I know, plus he is very handsome.
 
Part of the price factor depends on where you are based - I've noticed that horses seem to be more expensive in the South East than in some other parts of the country. If in the South East I would say that sort of horse would probably go for about £3000 with tack, but the market is so slow at the moment you may have to accept less.

Definitely put in your ad that he has done PC activities and gone to PC camp - that is a big plus for some people, especially as he sounds the sort that a confident teenager would love to have fun on. I would emphasise his record in coloured showing as well.
 
I think the market is particularly slow for everything at the mo, whether selling horses, tack or anything.

I think your cob looks and sounds very nice, and his 'issues' are minor compared to a lot I've seen that are advertised as 'Novice' rides and are unsafe as far as I'm concerned.

I think round here (S. East) you could get £3000-£4k for him in the Spring/Summer, but wouldn't like to say at this time of the year.
What with the hay situation and people's finances generally at the mo, I don't think many people are looking to buy.

Sounds like a reasonably competent person would be well suited to your cob, but you will have to word your ad to say so.

When it comes to people ringing up you could tell them about his pushy ways and ask them how they'd handle it and if they've had a horse like this in the past? Just a few subtle questions and you can weedle out of them whether they sound upto it.
 
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