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Has anyone had one similar to mine? What was the outcome?

she is currently on box rest, deep bed, soaked hay etc and has the imprint shoes on and looks very comfortable. (On two Dannilon a day now) Vet is coming back next wednesday to re assess.

The vets just said it will have to be monitored, and see how she goes. She is a very flat footed throughbred and they think she has had a low grade laminitis for some time now.

How do you know when the bout of lammi is over and she is stabilized? There is no heat or digital pulse now.

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Sorry for your problems. TB's often do have LGL which goes unnoticed.

It's easy to work out when lami is resolving when the foot is bare. With imprint shoes not so much.
 
^^^ I agree, my TB went undiagnosed with LGL for years in shoes. The shoes came off after the navicular diagnosis and then the LGL was obvious for all to see, I can spot it instantly now from a short stride or a hesitant step.

Being flat footed is unlikely to be a conformational thing that you can't change, if you were to get her shoes removed and (with the assistance of someone experienced with hard working barefoot horses) put her on a suitable barefoot friendly diet the chances are you can get some concavity into those feet.
 
I must be behind you then. My mare was diagnosed with lami end july . She must have had low grade lami last year which went unnoticed. This year she went lame . I thought tendon so first two weeks iced her leg. The vet x ray and showed a little rotation so box rest heart bar shows. Now shoe is of because some sinking happened vet put styrofoam pads on she is still hobbling and on deep bed 2 bute day.My mare still has a pulse . It doesnt seem to be going.:(
 
Leviathan and about 10+ years behind me.....

my old girl was diagnosed with sprains for YEARS by a very heavy weight vet and then I realised through a fortuitous accident that actually it was low grade laminitis.

I've found pulses not to be that reliable in that I can spot a potential LGL before a pulse is evident and that of course a pulse is not necessarily because of lami it could be something else like decontraction.

Many, but not all of the horses that I deshoe throw a pulse for a few days, esp when they are contracted. If you look at the thermography images of shod and deshod horses this makes some sense.

I am assuming with your horse that you are doing all the dietary things - soaked hay, no sugared chaffs or alfalfa.

Some horses respond to styro foam padding and others do very badly in it. Many prefer to choose/make their own foot support. Soles do best with pressure/release/pressure/release. Styrofoam can cause constant pressure which on a lami and/or thin sole can be counter productive.

I don't know if you are at livery and what you restrictions are but there are lots of comfy options you could try. Pm if you wish
 
I am not at livery I own my yard:)

I spoke to Laminitic Society , she is on 200 grms speedy beet am and pm with 1 scoop happy hoof along with her supplements which include formula4feet and laminitor 1 bute x 2 .
she has 3bls soaked hay am lunch time and 9 lbs eve again with her feed and 1 bute.

Vet is coming out again tomorrow to change the styrofoam pads. she is on 1ft feep bedamax bed .

I must also say we have a world champion farrier on her case too Mr Billy Crothers
 
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Leviathan said:
I am not at livery I own my yard:)

I spoke to Laminitic Society , she is on 200 grms speedy beet am and pm with 1 scoop happy hoof along with her supplements which include formula4feet and laminitor 1 bute x 2 .
she has 3bls soaked hay am lunch time and 9 lbs eve again with her feed and 1 bute.

Vet is coming out again tomorrow to change the styrofoam pads. she is on 1ft feep bedamax bed .

I must also say we have a world champion farrier on her case too Mr Billy Crothers
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Getting rid of the heart bars is probably a massive step forward in this horses recovery, I'm still convinced that bute will be hindering the recovery. I find horses more comfortable on pea gravel than deep beds, controversial
as it sounds.
 
well I have heard so much amateur professionals opinions " no offense" (as I know people who have been through it and out other side have experience with this crippling disease )and help is so confusing So I will stick to what vet advises.

She is to have 2 bute a day . She has to have one bute a normally anyway for the Uveitis and recurrent ulcers.
And while I am away way vets don't want to change anything.

She still has the heat bar shoe on near fore , but styrofoam pad on the other.


She is more comfortable now than she was 2 weeks ago. But doesn't look it when getting up after a kip.
I know she is in good hands while on holiday.

I have plantars fasciitis which is similar to drop soles and I find it comfortable and supportive on the bedmax.


http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Plantar-Fasciitis.htm
 
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Leviathan said:
well I have heard so much amateur professionals opinions " no offense" (as I know people who have been through it and out other side have experience with this crippling disease )and help is so confusing So I will stick to what vet advises.

She is to have 2 bute a day . She has to have one bute a normally anyway for the Uveitis and recurrent ulcers.
And while I am away way vets don't want to change anything.

She still has the heat bar shoe on near fore , but styrofoam pad on the other.


She is more comfortable now than she was 2 weeks ago. But doesn't look it when getting up after a kip.
I know she is in good hands while on holiday.

I have plantars fasciitis which is similar to drop soles and I find it comfortable and supportive on the bedmax.


http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Plantar-Fasciitis.htm
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You appear to be in somewhat of a cleft stick here, I appreciate the use of phenylbutazone for the uveitis as it is considered to be the easiest NASID (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug) on the stomach, but can still lead to ulcers in some horses after a time. Additionally, you now have the problem of the suppressed enzyme cascade in the repair of the lamina. Have a good holiday.
 
Leviathan said:
She has to have one bute a normally anyway for the Uveitis and recurrent ulcers.
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Pale Rider said:
I appreciate the use of phenylbutazone for the uveitis as it is considered to be the easiest NASID (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug) on the stomach, but can still lead to ulcers in some horses after a time.
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You're thinking of a different sort of ulcer here - uveitis and recurrent ulcers refers to corneal ulcers not gastric ulcers.

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I know it causes ulcers thats why my mare is using up the last 10 prodynam , then she is going onto Danylon which does not cause ulcers.
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Danilon has never been shown to be any safer in terms of ulcers than bute/prodynam (or any other NSAID). The two differences between danilon and bute are taste (danilon better for picky eaters) and price (danilon is around 20-30p more expensive per sachet). If your horse is adequately treated with prodynam, and will eat it happily, then there is no reason to switch to danilon unless you want to burn money!
 
Hi
Ive not had much experience with lami equines but I have had lots of experience with low-soled horses.
I found this article on gel stuff, there are lots of different types now. The gel filler helped my mare years ago after she had been shod incorrectly. After I stopped having it put in I avoided jumping/riding on hard or stoney ground.
It may help when the lami has cleared, maybe have a look at some links and talk to your farrier about whether it may help.
Ani
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/horsecare/397/115362.html
 
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