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Yesterday there were pictures of an underweight very broken looking Clydesdale on Facebook. Allegedly had been in harness at the royal Highland show. Does anyone know anything about this, I can't find anything about it today. Supposedly been bought or rescued. Some were saying it was all a bit fishy.
 

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Wow, just looked at their posts. Poor boy. ☹️ If he was being shown at the RH show, I wonder if the stewards spoke to the person showing him? How does it work if they see a case of neglect like that?
 

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I think they've done a great job of selecting photos that make him look a total wreck in order to get maximum donations. If they had photos of him stood up quietly relaxed I don't think he'd look anything unusual for a Clydesdale 4 year old. He isn't particularly ribby and he has an apple bottom. As a big immature horse it would probably be more dangerous for him to be fat.
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I think they've done a great job of selecting photos that make him look a total wreck in order to get maximum donations. If they had photos of him stood up quietly relaxed I don't think he'd look anything unusual for a Clydesdale 4 year old. He isn't particularly ribby and he has an apple bottom. As a big immature horse it would probably be more dangerous for him to be fat.
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Have you seen the video?
 

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Have you seen the video?

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ETA I have now, and my view remains unchanged. He looks normal for a 4 year old Clydesdale who is 5 years off being full grown, owned by anyone who realises how dangerous it is for big young horses to be fat.

ETA2 that is also how Clydesdales are bred to walk. They are meant to walk with close hocks with both hind feet inside the same furrow as they plough. He is just young and still weak.
 
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ETA I have now, and my view remains unchanged. He looks normal for a 4 year old Clydesdale who is 5 years off being full grown, owned by anyone who realises how dangerous it is for big young horses to be fat.

ETA2 that is also how Clydesdales are bred to walk. They are meant to walk with close hocks with both hind feet inside the same furrow as they plough. He is just young and still weak.
I agree, he just looks like a baby Clydesdale to me. With a bit of work and muscle he'd look 'normal' but then why would you work a baby horse with legs longer than it's brain can reach. He needs time to mature. I suspect he's just turned 4.
 

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I think they've done a great job of selecting photos that make him look a total wreck in order to get maximum donations. If they had photos of him stood up quietly relaxed I don't think he'd look anything unusual for a Clydesdale 4 year old. He isn't particularly ribby and he has an apple bottom. As a big immature horse it would probably be more dangerous for him to be fat.
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I have to say I wish people would also comment with uproar on the horses who are so grossly obese at 3 and 4 years old! A heavy horse does not have to be a barrel on legs, trust me I had one that was eventing fit and I regularly used to get asked "shouldn't you let him have more weight on". He's 21 now and still a lean build for a clydesdale but not in any way worrying. We live in a world where seeing a hint of a rib is a welfare case but carrying 100+kilos spare is cute/cuddly/loved/desired.
I have seen pictures and thought it looked weak and poor for a youngster but not dangerously thin. I have seen worse in breeders yards! I do wonder what they paid for it, if it was out competing it won't have gone for meat money!
 

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A lot of big heavies look like that at 4 and 5. They’re slow growing, slow maturing and tend to go upwards for years. A class of 3 year old shires can often have a couple of walking hat racks - and it’s often those ones which are still going at 15, when the stabled and topped out on hard feed ones spread a growth plate and are crippled by the time they’re 6.

The back end, that’s fairly typical Clyde walking. Both those feet need to fit in a single furrow.
 

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I agree that he looks quite normal for a 4yo heavy breed, although putting him to harness is disgraceful. I did scroll down the FB page as you do and was actually more concerned by their cobs that are now looking 'very well'. In my opinion, they are obese and harness aside, I'd argue they're more of a welfare concern than the clydie!
 

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I have to say I wish people would also comment with uproar on the horses who are so grossly obese at 3 and 4 years old!
Quite. I went to Hickstead and was disheartened to see that in the showing classes, the 'WeighToWin' best body score award (sponsored by WHW) was always given to the last placed horse. Hardly an incentive, is it? We watched 4 classes in the same ring and that happened each time. May as well have handed out a wooden spoon. One arguably was placed last because of ring antics, but not the other three.
 

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I've just been and watched the video; it has obviously been shod as a youngster to encourage that movement - I completely disagree with shoeing youngsters to show but that's a whole other debate. In fact you can see it still has the shoes on in that video, they're taken off in another picture.
I'm going to add a picture of my current (younger) clyde when I bought him as a rising 5 year old (so a year older than this one) and he was young and weak but definitely not a welfare case!! He's got a dreadful sloping back end but he's not like that now!IMG_5089.jpgSame horse last week (3 years on) IMG_7997.jpg
 

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It's not a horse I would feel happy showing at this point, because it doesn't look muscled enough for that work. That's entirely understandable given he still has 5 years of growing to do, and these big horses do tend to grow in spurts. My cob had a sloping bum like that as a 6 year old and it only became a proper shape after lots of strengthening work and a further 4 years of maturing.

The cobs they posted are a worry. They are so fat. The necks look rock solid and there are ripples in the skin. They desperately need to be put on a diet. It's so dangerous to have them that fat. I'm more worried about them than the Clyde, although I do agree that it didn't look fit enough to be in a driving team.
 

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I think they've done a great job of selecting photos that make him look a total wreck in order to get maximum donations. If they had photos of him stood up quietly relaxed I don't think he'd look anything unusual for a Clydesdale 4 year old. He isn't particularly ribby and he has an apple bottom. As a big immature horse it would probably be more dangerous for him to be fat.
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Just had a look, he doesn’t look that bad at all. Not sure he needed rescuing?
 

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I think he’s the near side wheeler after the Suffolk’s but I was distracted by one of the leaders walks.


They’ve just bought a horse 🤷‍♀️

I love that team of Suffolks 😍
 
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